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COVID-19: Public Health Apocalypse or Panic, Hoax, and Anti-American?

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  1. Aaron

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    Coronavirus COVID-19: Public Health Apocalypse or Panic, Hoax, and Anti-American? - AAPS | Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

    "At this time, the United States is seeing what very well may be the peak in deaths from the latest human Coronavirus, also known as COVID-19. The media reporting and governmental response to this viral outbreak is unprecedented. But what is more concerning than the virus itself is our American collective response to it. It is no less than tragic. If it is not seen for what it is, it very well may mean the end of the American experiment and will lead to a new totalitarianism that will harm and persecute future generations. It is reasonable to look at the three pillars of a stable society and how each of these pillars (medical, legal/civil, religious) has addressed and responded to the virus."
     
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    Whoa, whoa, whoa. This article says we may have hit the peak. Your other article says that we were misguidedly delaying the peak. If we have hit the peek now then the lock downs are working. Sooooo which is it?
     
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    This one says we may have hit the peak, but that containment may actually prolong the season.

    The other one says the computer models are saying the peak will occur later.

    Learn to read.
     
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    “May” actually prolong the season. Based off his gut.

    This is an opinion piece with a biased slant. I’m sure you’ll always be able to find some niche edgelord doctor out there that can spitball with the best of em. Here’s another one. Great.

    Thankfully it doesn’t really matter what you post or think. This is happening pal. Like it or or we are doing this.
     
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    "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons" looks like a bona fide medical association but it is not. It's a far-right political action group.
    They have no expertise in infectious disease pandemics or anything else that is medical.

    Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
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    Association of American Physicians and Surgeons - Wikipedia
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    The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943. It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of socialized medicine.[1][2] The group was reported to have about 4,000 members in 2005, and 5,000 in 2014.[3][4][5] The executive director is Jane Orient, an internist and a member of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine. AAPS also publishes the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (formerly known as the Medical Sentinel).

    The association is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.
     
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    Sure, based on data that you know is unreliable. That makes you an aggressor. Like it or not, 'pal.'
     
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    It is not far right. It's conservative, and this doctor happens to be a Christian.

    The left promotes a response that is based on unreliable data and hype to scare the population into yielding to despotic measures ostensibly for the safety of the public at large. And in doing so they virture signal and spout exaggerated and pious maxims about the value of just one life blah, blah, blah in an attempt to guilt you into compliance.

    The conservatives are more circumspect about their data and cite precedent and history--accurately.

    But you haven't found fault in the medical science to which he appeals. You only find fault with his politics.
     
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    Okay, I’m an agressor and I like it.
     
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    You are outright wrong and should know better than to post like that.

    Who We Are:
    • AAPS is a national association of physicians dedicated to preserving freedom in the one-on-one patient- physician relationship.
    • AAPS members believe this patient-physician relationship must be protected from all forms of third-party intervention.
    • Since its founding in 1943, AAPS has been the only national organization consistently supporting the principles of the free
      market in medical practice.
    What We’ve Done:
    • AAPS has successfully fought in the courts for the rights of patients and physicians. Victories have included:
      1. protecting physicians against threats of HHS sanctions for unassigned billing for laboratory tests at a time when such billing was perfectly legal (AAPS v. Bowen I and II);
      2. establishing the right of physicians to be heard in federal court in a challenge to a fee freeze (Whitney v. Heckler);
      3. challenging HCFA’s attempt to abrogate the freedom of patients and physicians to contract privately if no Medicare benefits are claimed (Stewart v. Sullivan);
      4. bringing to light the illegal secret operations of the President’s Task Force on Health Care Reform (AAPS v. Clinton).
    • AAPS sponsors seminars throughout the country to instruct physicians in economic, legal, and political issues pertinent to the practice of medicine.
    • AAPS testifies on invitation before committees in the US Senate and House of Representatives .
    • AAPS networks with physician and patient groups to inform the public about true free market reforms (such as Medical Savings Accounts) as an alternate to more-of-the-same nostrums that caused the crisis in medical costs.

    To serve the state? Or to serve our patients?
    That is the question we will increasingly face as government forces its power into every nook and cranny of our professional lives. I once belonged to all the standard societies—my specialty society, my state and local medical society and—dare I admit this—even the AMA. But I discovered that none of these societies stood on the principles I hold dear—individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, and the ability to freely practice medicine according to time honored Hippocratic principles.

    AAPS Fights to Preserve Medical Freedom!
    The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, AAPS, has been fighting the good fight to preserve the practice of private medicine since 1943. When the Clinton health plan was proposed, we fought for open meetings. And when the details came to light, the plan was halted. In the current battle over health care “reform,” the AAPS helped organize numerous physician rallys and has a pending lawsuit suit in the DC Federal District Court challenging the constitutionality of the ObamaCare insurance mandate.

    AAPS Stands up for Physicians!
    The AAPS legal team defends doctors who have been mugged by Medicare, or railroaded by hospitals using sham peer review. We sued the Texas Medical Board in defense of physicians’ due process rights; this suit is now on appeal. We drafted legislation for reform of the Texas medical practice act and are fighting for its enactment.


    About AAPS - AAPS | Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

    AAPS Membership Information - AAPS | Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
     
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    its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.
     
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