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Cream of tartar and vinegar

Discussion in 'Fundamental Baptist Forum' started by Gina B, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. tinytim

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    It certainly beats Cod liver oil!!! yuck!!!
     
  2. matthew_williams81

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    The Bible does speak of drunkeness in several places. However, one may want to simply take the following into consideration:

    1 Cor 6:12
    "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expediant: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

    1 Cor 10:23
    "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expediant: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

    True, all things are lawful. A Christian is not bound under the law, but under grace.

    Romans 6:14
    "For sin shall not have domininion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."

    This is not a license to do what ever we want. We have to ask ourselves, "Are we going to be a stepping stone or a stubbling block to less mature believers?" "Are we going to offend others in the faith?" If we are doing something, no matter what it is, if it causes an offense to other believers, simply avoid doing it in their presence. The question we need to ask ourself is can we eat or drink anything to the glory of God?

    1 Cor 10
    "23All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

    24Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.

    25Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake:

    26For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.

    27If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake.

    28But if any man say unto you, this is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:

    29Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience?

    30For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks?

    31Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

    32Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

    33Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved."
     
  3. Jkdbuck76

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    Still, you shouldn't drink vinegar before you drive.

    :laugh:
     
  4. Jim1999

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    I love it when someone takes the pain of writing a lot of verses irrelevant to the point in question!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  5. gb93433

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    It is called proof-texting.
     
  6. matthew_williams81

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    How is this irrevelant? Either you take God at his word or you don't. Do these verses not line up with your own theology?
     
  7. Jim1999

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    what do they have to do with tarter and vinegar?

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  8. Aaron

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    A fella at work asked me if I thought those who had legalistic views concerning the moderate consumption of alcohol might be approached by Christ on Judgment Day for condemning their imbibing brethren.

    I answered, "No. I think He may be more inclined to ask the imbibers why their love for their teetotaling brethren was too cold to abstain?"
     
  9. Gina B

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    Please note that the thread is not about consuming alcohol.

    It's about the legitimacy of using by-products of alcohol.

    I was wondering about the viewpoint of those who believe alcohol is 100% wrong, and if that, for them, means that using the products mentioned, which when commercially manufactured usually come from first making wine for sale as wine, would be considered wrong. (in the same fashion those of the Islamic religion were finding it wrong because of their dietary prohibition of consuming anything alcoholic)
     
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    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/environment&id=6549601
    "Glass wine and beer and bottles that are put out on the curb for recycling, could end up in Richmond inside one of the popular countertops that are shipped around the country. Some countertops are made from 100 percent from one kind of glass, like recycled Skyy Vodka bottles."
     
  11. Jerome

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  12. Gina B

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    Chocolate?!

    On my knees thanking myself for not being 100% against anything alcoholic/derived from alcohol! :laugh:
     
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    Amen and amen!!! Oh goodness!! AMEN!!
     
  14. Aaron

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    Why are you doing this in the Fundamental Forum? Do you consider yourself a Fundamentalist? You've never stricken me as one.

    Fundamentalists are known to be strict concerning alcohol (not an altogether undesirable trait), and you simply appear to be needling them.
     
  15. Aaron

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    No need to pander to the proud. There has never been any danger in total abstinence. What parents allow in moderation, children tend to excuse in excess.
     
  16. annsni

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    I've seen children from the strictest of abstinent homes go ahead and abuse alcohol. I've seen children from homes that drink very moderately never drink at all. I think the bigger issue is the reasoning behind it. Give stupid answers like "The Bible says all alcohol is evil and you'll go to hell if you touch it!" and you just may end up with a rebellious child who doesn't care. But teach a child the right knowledge of alcohol, the wisdom of Scripture and allow them to pray about it and make their own choices, and you just may end up with a child who chooses to abstain. That's what I've learned with my own teens. Don't just give them "no" - but explain the wisdom and discernment behind the choices. It helps THEM to avoid making stupid mistakes.
     
  17. Squire Robertsson

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    If we start down this slippery slope, we're all in trouble. Each of us can easily anathamatize the other as not being a Fundamentalist. As for the all fundamentalists being on the (water) wagon, I guess you've never met a Fundamentalist Presbyterian.

    Please leave the moderating to the Mods.
     
  18. Aaron

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    Go stack marbles. Where a person starts a topic is as much about motive as anything else.
     
  19. Aaron

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    Blah, blah, blah. You, as usual, have missed the point entirely.
     
  20. gb93433

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    That is not always true. I find your statement sad because it reveals that you have not read much if any of your Bible and then label someone as proud. If you were to read your Bible you would quickly realize that there were godly children who came from ungodly homes, and ungodly children who came from godly homes.

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