Crucifixion Happened ON Wednesday

This is the view of many Messianic Jews ( Wednesday).

But what about Thursday ? In this case it is 3 nights and 3 days.

Wednesday - 3 nights and 4 days.

Friday - 2 nights and 3 days.

 

1. Matthew 16:21
   From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day.
2. Matthew 17:23
   and they will kill Him, and He will be raised on the third day." And they were deeply grieved.
3. Matthew 20:19
   and will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up."
4. Matthew 27:64
   "Therefore, give orders for the grave to be made secure until the third day, otherwise His disciples may come and steal Him away and say to the people, 'He has risen from the dead,' and the last deception will be worse than the first."
5. Luke 9:22
   saying, " The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed and be raised up on the third day."
6. Luke 13:32
   And He said to them, "Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.'
7. Luke 18:33
   and after they have scourged Him, they will kill Him; and the third day He will rise again."
8. Luke 24:7
   saying that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again."
9. Luke 24:21
   "But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.
10. Luke 24:46
    and He said to them, " Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day,

 

I would accept the timing of Death of Jesus was 15:30.


1. If He died on Wednesday,
Until Thursday 15:30 - the first day,
Until Friday 15:30 - the second day,
Until Saturday 15:30 - the third day,
Sunday morning - ca. 04:30 - Resurrection - 85 hours after death on the fourth day.( Not on the third day)
Until Sunday 15:30 - the fourth day

In the Greek New Testament, sometimes it says τη τριτη ημερα ( the third day : 1 Cor 15:4) too. Therefore the only way to satisfy both requirements - 3 days and 3 nights but still on the third day - is to find 3 nights before the Sunday morning, but should not be earlier than 72 hours.

2. If He died on Thursday,
Until Friday 15:30 - the first day
Until Saturday 15:30 - the second day
Sunday Morning ca. 04:30 - Resurrection - 61 hours after death, on the third day, after 3 nights and 3 days
Sunday 15:30 - the third day

This satisfies both requirements - 3 nights and 3 days but still on the third day.

3. Reason for this study

AA) Many anti-Christian groups argue already that the prophecy of Jesus that he was going to be in the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights ( Mt 12:40) didn't come true and Jesus was wrong ! based on the crucifixion on Friday ( so-called Good Friday).

BB) Anti-Christians also argue that the period during which Jesus was dead was only 37 hours if we accept so-called Good Friday theory and some exceptional stories tell them that some dead people can be alive again within 48 hours.
In this case the analysis of hours are as follows:
Friday 15:30 - died
Saturday 15:30 - 24 hours - the first day
Sunday Morning 04:30 - Resurrection - 37 hours after death, the second day, only after 2 nights and 2 days( or less than 2 days). It was less than the elapse of 48 hours.

Until Sunday 15:30 - still the second day.

4. Why did such misunderstanding take place?

Many misunderstood that the Sabbath was nearing when Jesus died.
They thought the Sabbath meant the Saturday.
However, that Sabbath was the special Sabbath, the Passover Sabbath which is also called High Sabbath according to Leviticus 23.
So, the Thursday is the most plausible day of Crucifixion.

I have some more things which need a lot lengthy explanation on this but would refrain from it at the moment.

 

7:30 pm Saturday is already Sunday in Jewish calendar and it has already trespassed(or entered) the fourth day.

 

And Saturday night, or certainly any time later than that, is beyond the third day.

 

We all agree that Jesus arose on the third day.
Friday was the first day.
Saturday was the second day.
Sunday was the third day.

 

Exactly! The only day that fits Scripture, without 'giving Scripture fits', is Thursday, the way we reckon time! I've posted more detailed analysis to this at least twice in the last two years.

Ed

 

The 'injection' of "72 hours" is one place where the faulty reasoning usually begins. Scripture does not give or use this figure, at all.

It does use such phrases such as "the third day", "in three days", "three days and three nights", "on the third day", "after three days", and "the third day since", among perhaps others.

I "ain't the brightest neon on Broadway" by any stretch, but I do assume that all these phrases are referring to the same time period.

May I also suggest reading Matt. 12:39-40 carefully, and seeing exactly what that Scripture is saying, rather than reading into it words that are not found there.

In short, Wednesday is too early, and Friday is too late. Wanna' take a "blind stab" at what day is left??

Eliyahu is starting down the right track, folks. :thumbs:

Ed

 

Exactly. It is kind of like the argument about pre-mil, the young earth, and the six day Creation. Who cares? God created it, God has the end times in control, and Jesus was crucified on the day appointed in God's plan.

 

Will knowing what day jesus died , help the lost souls of this world , i think not , what matters is , jesus died , rose again , and is alive today , the blood shed at calvary 2000 years ago is cleansing men to this day , or was it yesterday , or is it tommorow............hmmmmmmmmmmmmm................ it matters not , " everyone who looks to the son and believes in him shall have eternal life ."

 

IN SABBATH’S-TIME BEFORE THE LORD​

FOURTEEN ABIB FIRST FIRST DAY
GOSHEN TO GETHSEMANE –
PREPARE THE DAY OF PASSOVER!
BEGIN! REMOVE ALL LEAVEN!
TO THE END TO SACRIFICE THE LAMB!

FIFTEEN ABIB FIRST OF PASCHAL DAYS AGAIN
FEAST! REMEMBER! EAT!
UNLEAVENED BREAD’S ROASTED LUMP!
OUT FROM UNDER EGYPT’S CLAIMS
TO FLAME TO ASH TO EARTH WITH THE REMAINS

SIXTEEN ABIB THIRD DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES
YAHWEH’S PASSOVER CONSUMMATE!
FIRST OF WINTER HARVEST DAYS –
WAVE THE SHEAF – CLARION CALL TO SHAVUOT!
IN SABBATH’S TIME BEFORE THE LORD!

FEAST ON STILL, BITTER LEAVENLESS BREAD
FIRST OF FIFTY TO THE DAY
LAST OF WINTER’S GROWTH,
TWO LOAVES WAVED – ONE THE BODY THAT IS CHRIST’S
IN SABBATH’S TIME BEFORE THE LORD!

​

 

5.1.1.6.3.7. Prophetic Feasts

Spring – Winter Harvest

Nisan (First Month) Passover
14 Preparation Lamb slaughtered Crucifixion

Day of Removal of Leaven
15 Passover Sabbath Feast Lamb eaten Burial
First Day of Unleavened Bread………….Eaten
16 Day after Sabbath First Sheaf Wave Offer Resurrection

2nd day Unleavened Bread First of Fifty Days

17 Third day of Unleavened Bread Appearances

Fortieth Day Ascension

Wait in Jerusalem (till Harvest Completed)​

Fiftieth Day

First Bread Wave Offering

Fulfilled in Holy Spirit and Ecclesia……….Body of Christ

Autumn – Summer Harvest

Tishri Day of Atonement

9 Preparation Tribes ordered Priests offer for self

Fulfilled in Israel

Atonement: Morning: Goat Slaughtered
Fulfilledin Christ’s Suffering, Humiliation, Death
High Priest Enters

Fulfilled in Christ’s Presentation, Ascending Trone and Exaltation​

Afternoon: High Priest Returns​

Fulfilled in Christ’s being “brought again from the dead”​

Goat Sent into Wilderness

Fulfilled in Life of Christ Raised, Presented, Exalted

The Death of Death in the Death of Christ


15 Feast of Trumpets
Fulfilled in, 1, Judgement, Sacrifice and Resurrection of Christ 2, in Pentecost

3, in Sabbaths’ Feast 4, in Christ’s Return​

Feast of Tabernacles

Fulfilled in 1, Incarnation 2, Resurrection 3, Church 4, New Earth​

 

5.1.1.6.2.7.3.​

“Six Days Before Passover”​

See Par. 5.1.1.6, and for a scheme, Par. 5.1.1.6.2. ​

Remember each and every argument against the Wednesday crucifixion theory somehow or other is an argument against the Friday crucifixion Sunday ​

resurrection tradition. In essence they are identical – both consist of but fallacy.​

A Fourth Day

The Wednesday crucifixion theory implicates a fourth “day”: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday = four days! ​

The complication from another angle:​

Day One: Fourth Day (Wednesday) First of “three days”: Crucifixion. ​

14 Nisan. “Buried before sunset.” Day ends: “Sunset”.​

Day Two: The Fifth Day (Thursday) 1st of “three nights” …and the 1st “day”. ​

15 Nisan. Day ends: “Sunset”.​

Day Three: The Sixth Day (Friday) 2nd of “three nights” … and the 2nd “day”. ​

16 Nisan. Day ends: “Sunset”.​

Day Four: The Sabbath (Saturday) 3rd of “three nights” … and the 3rd “day”. ​

17 Nisan. “Resurrection just before Sunset”. ​

1, According to the Wednesday crucifixion theory, Wednesday all day, crucifixion, death, and, entombment, occur and are finished, “before sunset”. ​

2, According to the Wednesday crucifixion theory, from entombment ​

3, counting of the “three days and three nights”, starts and not from death. ​

4, According to the Wednesday crucifixion theory, the first “night” of the “three days and three nights” follows from after sunset. ​

5, According to the Wednesday crucifixion theory, reckoning of Day begins “from sunset”. ​

6, According to the Wednesday crucifixion theory, “from sunset Wednesday”, Thursday begins … the second day! ​

Clearly something, already, is awry! ​

Thursday night and Friday day together make a day the Sixth Day of the week the third day of the “three days and three nights” – according to the Wednesday crucifixion theory. Only two nights, and we already have three days! Jesus was not resurrected on Friday! ​

 

Friday night and Saturday day together makes a day the Sabbath Day the fourth day of the “three days and three nights”. But if Saturday had been the day of Resurrection, it could not have been the fourth day! Saturday should have been the third day. Crucifixion should have been on Thursday! ​

The question is whether the “three days and three nights” are involved in the sense of one period of 72 hours or whether “three days and three nights”,are what they are, the “three days”of prophetic Scriptures! ​

All of these theories call on John 11:9, “Are there not twelve hours in a day?” If it has to be the full number of hours,by principle it should also be the full number of minutes and seconds. Then the resurrection occurs where it cannot, where there is notime to occur.They cannot say Jesus rose “on”, or, “in” the third day because “after the third day”, must be taken for “literal” and its idiomatic force be ignored. The result: “After the third day” should mean morethan 72 hours, which should make the resurrection “on thefourthday”. And so one could go on and on.​

Now the Wednesday crucifixion theory maintains the resurrection occurred “after 72 hours from sunset Wednesday”. The day being reckoned from sunset to sunset – which the Wednesday crucifixion theory accepts – resurrection occurs on Sunday, Saturday night being the First Day. The Wednesday crucifixion theory in effect places the resurrection on the fifth, and not, on “the third day”. ​

Considered separate entities of “days” and “nights”, the “three days and three nights” on and within the three calendar days of Jesus’ crucifixion, entombment and resurrection from the dead, agree with the historic events of the Passover. Three days occurred and are to be considered according to the principle the part represents the whole. “The third day”, especially, was not a full day of twenty-four hours. The resurrection occurred in but an instant and as such represents the third day as “the third day”. The resurrection besides occurred considerable time before sunset and approximately three quarters of that day are considered “the third day according to the Scriptures” fully and unreservedly. ​

The day Jesus was buried was Friday without a doubt as we have shown many times elsewhere. Mark 15:42 in parallel with 16:1 is the clearest and most definitive Scripture in this respect. Also John 19:31 in parallel with 42, Luke 23:54 in parallel with 56 and Matthew 27:62 in parallel with 28:1 leave no doubt that Friday was the day of the week of Jesus’ burial. It could not have been circumscribed and identified any better, with more or better detail or in simpler and clearer language. ​

 

In just as simple and unambiguous language though is it also stated that before Joseph buried the body and after it still hung on the cross, “the evening had come”, which, together with many other factors, make of the day of interment the day after, crucifixion. ​

Then, again with just as simple and unambiguous language (unfortunately manipulated through translation) Matthew 28:1 states that the resurrection occurred on the Sabbath, the day after, interment. Which gives us “the third day”, and, “three days”, and, “three days and three nights” considering the significance of Gethsémané night, without any difficulty or confusion. Together, the first “night” (Wednesday night) – Gethsémané , and the first “day” (Thursday day) – crucifixion and death, and forsaking by all, constitute the first day of the “three days” “according to the Scriptures”. Then “came evening”, the second day of the “three days” beginning. (Thursday) The second “night”, Passover Feast Meal, “Being the Preparation, the Jews demanded of Pilate … After this, Joseph went in to Pilate, the body granted, taken down, removed, prepared. The “day” saw the women following after to the grave and Joseph eventually closing the grave and all returning to prepare for the Sabbath – “day declining towards the First Day of the week” <epefohsken sabbaton>. ​

“Started the women to rest” the third day of the “three days” began – so the third “night”. “Come morning” and “day” the third, Mt.27:62, the Jews and Pilate , the grave sealed and guarded. “The third day” saw the angel descend, and roll away the stone! ​