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Daniel 4:17..."Watchers"

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Mike McK, Mar 7, 2004.

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  1. Mike McK

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    Are the "Watchers" in Daniel 4:17 angels or OT judges?
     
    #1 Mike McK, Mar 7, 2004
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    They are angelic beings at the level of cherubs and seraphs (above the regular level of angels).

    Think of levels in the spirit world - Godhead, then higher spirits, then lower spirits, then man.
     
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    Watchers are definitely angelic beings. The Enochic literature contains a work called the book of the watchers.
     
    #3 Charles Meadows, Mar 7, 2004
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    Hey, Bob and Charles,

    That was my answer but I was told that this was speaking of the OT judges.

    I just wanted to check it out with those more learned than myself.

    Is there another passage that you can think of off the top of your heads that expounds on this? It seems as if a lot is being made out of a relatively obscure verse.

    Thanks for your help.
     
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    The word "watcher" is the aramaic "'ir" - literally one who is awake. This generally is used to refer to angels. Besides Daniel 4 you'd need to go to the book of Enoch. Specifically chapters 6-36 are referred to as the "book of the watchers". This is a tale of the fall of Azazel and Shamhazai the evil angels, and how they corrupted human civilization. Some weird stuff! [​IMG]
     
    #5 Charles Meadows, Mar 8, 2004
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