Debt...Wow!

And how many children did you save by adopting them Galatian?

I am VERY pro-life to the point that I would instituted the death penalty for those who have, provide or assist in abortion in any way. I am also a realist. NO president can force our country to do away with abortion. You and I must work to change hearts and the way to do it is NOT fussing on a Christian board but one young couple at a time.

See how even the national debt is turned into a "I hate George Bush/ You're not pro-life enough" thread?

Folks! Get off your computer chair and go volunteer at Birthright.

 

Amen Diane!

 

(Diane agrees with hardsheller)

Barbarian observes:
Abortion just isn't a joking matter for some of us, Diane.

None. But on the other hand, I didn't vote for a candidate who thinks abortion is O.K. if the child is concieved in incest or rape.

How about you?

Say, like promoting a pro-abortion candidate over a pro-life candidate? I don't think I'd have voted for the death penalty for such people, but I deplore their lack of concern for the unborn.

Um, yeah, a "realist", i.e. "I had a conflict between my loyalty to the GOP and my principles."

But he could have avoided campaigning in a GOP primary, taking the side of the abortionist, um? Spector was going down to defeat, until Bush stepped in to save him from a pro-life republican.

Maybe one less pro-abortion senator would have been even better.

You can't serve two masters.

It was a response to the "times are a'changing" argument. They aren't changing.

Wouldn't hurt to quit voting for pro-abortion candidates, too.

 

This too must have something to do with that "mandate."

 

Wow: did Dianetavegia just quote Bob Dylan?


Be careful: that'll turn you into one of us lefties.....

 

HEY BaptistinRichmond, it'll take a lot more than Rainy Day Women to turn ME into a leftie! I'm 54. I know the songs. Been there... never did that. I was NOT a flower child.

 

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Wow, that was hilarious. Of all the songs, that was the one you referenced!!! Thanks, Diane: I needed that (rough day).

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And it is a deep, contented sleep these nights!

 

Incredible. Just incredible. One is reminded of the old skit where Jimmy Durante is trying to sneak an elephant into a building.

A guard spots him and walks up behind, and clears his throat.

"What elephant?" says Durante.

 

You're right Galatian. We don't see it the way you see it. Imagine that!

 

Pa. Jim, What really gets my goat is you trash our President daily on a Christian board and yet I never notice any discussion from you about witnessing, Bible Versions, prayer and praise forums... all politics and breaking news. Yet WE are the bad guys because we don't agree with you and your cohort in this rant.

Seems to me you need to take off your blinders! There's more to Christianity than fighting abortion and war. If we share Jesus and win the lost to Christ, abortions will lessen! You cannot force morality on people! Only the Holy Spirit can change their hearts, not some law. Never stopped the sodomites did it?

The BIBLE tells us not to worry about the future! Plus, if worse comes to worse, your grandchildren will see smaller govt. because we won't be able to afford all these give aways.

 

Matthew 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

No. We have NO plans for retirement. I'm 54, hubby is 57 and we have NOTHING left. We have a 10 year old too. All our savings and equity in our home has been used to keep us in our home. The best laid plans... are worthless when you lose a job and are older with very bad health (Hubby). He currently works 2 jobs.

I also have a lot of experience with politics as does my husband. I won't bother to list it again. It was all Republican.

What elected office did you hold?

 

Jim, you do have a gift of being able to use discernment in political thinking, and I appreciate yor contribution here. I don't think that personal criticisms are neccessary, but I guess there's a tendency when one cannot overcome the force of the argument, to criticize the person.

 

That was an honest question Jim. I'd like to hear about your experiences in politics and where you began (Republican??) and how you got to where you are now.

Diane

 

Thanks for sharing Jim. My parents were both Democrats but my father switched parties about 35 years ago, after I registered Republican. My mother still thinks anyone but a democrat will ruin the country. She's as off the wall as Barbara Striesand!

We had a number of friends in Conn. who ran without party endorsement or dual endorsement but in New England.... pro-lifers fought a constant battle. I remember when Len Suzio ran for SCHOOL BOARD the first time and his opponent sent out so much literature about his affiliation with Birthright that you'd have thought the school board would have a chance to outlaw abortion.

When my husband lost re-election by just a few votes, we had a large number of people from the Right to Life party call and apologize for 'not making it to the polls' because they didn't think their vote would matter in an 'off' year.

I've done nothing but vote, write letters, hand out stuff now for the last 10 years. Jim lost his re-election bid 10 years ago last week. Just realized that! Our 'unwed' daughter was pregnant during that time and NARAL and NOW really went after him. They handed out literature saying if he got re-elected that he'd see all birth control would be outlawed.