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Democrat Anti-Gun Sting Fizzles

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. FollowTheWay

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    Eternal Security
     
  2. HankD

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    Are you relating them?

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    Move into the real world please.
     
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    What does Eternal Security have to do with easy believism? I hold to the eternal security of the Believer in Christ, but not easy believism.
     
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    What does any of it have to do with gun control?
     
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    That too.
     
  7. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Well if you can't make a coherent argument, the least you can do is derail the thread...right?
     
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  8. HankD

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    I have often said one of the easiest things I know how to do is believe in my LORD.

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  9. Squire Robertsson

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    That is a distinct possiblity.
     
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  10. FollowTheWay

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    Yes. The 1925 BF&M contained the following statement:

    "All real believers endure to the end. Their continuance in well-doing is the mark which distinguishes them from mere professors. A special Providence cares for them, and they are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation."

    This is essentially the same statement found in the 1833 new Hampshire Confession. It basically says that a genuine conversion experience results in a person being born again into a personal relationship with Christ which will be reflected in a changed life. This is an essential part of Reformed Baptist belief (the P in TULIP) but I believe it is also a requirement from a non-reformed perspective which I hold to, as well. The 1963 BF&M committee, chaired by Herschel Hobbs, took this out of the final document after a bitter battle with none other than D.L. Moody. This has led to most people in the pews believing they can walk down the aisle and shake the preacher's hand and then go out as if nothing has changed and be saved. Nothing is further from the truth.

    Actually, my comment is more on the nature of a genuine salvation experience than about perseverance of a (true) believer.
     
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    Post #28 derailed the thread not me.

    "Define "significant mental problems." In 20 years the liberals will probably decide Bible believing fundamental Christians suffer from "significant mental illness."
     
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    unless the walk down the aisle reflects true belief and regeneration.

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    Yes. That's what I'm talking about but many don't interpret it that way.
     
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    Maybe I'm ignorant of how many people have gone by the name D.L. Moody, but..how was the 1963 BF&M committee locked in a battle with someone who died in 1899?
     
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    Looks like the derailment has been successful. It's OK by me if you close the thread.
     
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    Correct.
     
  17. FollowTheWay

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    That is confusing. The Dwight Moody you're referring to was in the 19th century and founded the Moody Bible Institute. D.L. Moody (unrelated think) was a Southern Baptist Seminary professor from 1948-1984. I get these confused and think the earlier person is actually Dwight L. Moody and the person I referred to is Dale Moody. My mistake.

    SBTS – Dale Moody
     
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  18. Rob_BW

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    Lol, okay, thanks for the clarification.
     
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