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democrats, the black vote, & Rush Limbaugh

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, May 2, 2008.

  1. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles New Member

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    Well Curtis and PS, you have learned the art of mindless attack well from your dark lord Pigman. Just because it doesn't sound like something he would say, doesn't mean he did not. So you use that basis to again call me a liar.

    First, i heard this garbage myself in the mid 80s when Porky was a local DJ in Sacramento. Secondly, there are not a lot of web sites with this, since it was so long ago, but there are some mentions. Third, a lie is a willfully and knowingly passing along an untruth. You assume I am lying, rather than being wrongly informed (which I am not). I ill add your apologies to the stack you will never offer.

    Finally, #2 is enough. Me labelling a public blowhard a pig is not the same as said radio host calling an innocent child a dog just because you dislike her parents. To defend such despicable behavior puts the two of you squarely in the pen with him. You both need to seriously consider both your hatred of a brother, but also your allegiance to such a horrible person as Rush.

    Peace to your troubled souls.
     
  2. poncho

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    Yup, and today's liberals typically think the political scale runs from left to right instead of 0% government to 100% government. Some even claim I'm the one who's mistaken.

    What a hoot! :laugh:
     
  3. Bro. Curtis

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    I doubt he said it. I'm calling on you to prove it. Shouldn't be that hard to do, since something that bad would be held by someone. I looked, couldn't even find a reference. he's only been on the radio sonce 1987, or so, 21 years isn't that long.

    Then it shouldn't be too hard for you to back it up, then. Go ahead, find even a rumor about it.

    Innocent ? Hah!

    She is a public figure, and calling her a dog is right on the same plane as you calling Rush a pig. Get off yer high horse, man.

    And by now, you should know where my allegiance lies. It is not with Rush, and only a liar would insinuate so.

    Right back at you. remember, I asked you to keep yer hateful garbage out of this thread, I'd of been glad to never address you, here. You brought it up.
     
  4. poncho

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    Guilt tripped by a lib oh how cliche. :laugh:

    Yeah yeah I know I do the same thing to neolibs here all the time...but hey they did it first! :tongue3:
     
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  5. Magnetic Poles

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    No it isn't if you know how to do research. Here is one that says:

    During Reagan's second term a little known disc jocky in Sacramento, California was making a name for himself by reading off the names of gay men who had died from AIDS each week while pushing the applause button and laughing (Character Matters.) The success of taking so much joy in so much innocent suffering made Rush Limbaugh the most popular voice on California radio. Limbaugh rode the low road to then take on local lesbian groups, he sparred with GLADD up in San Francisco and soon expanded his mysigony to include all women who wore shoes and were not pregnant. As luck would have it, the spokesman for NOW (The National Organization for Women) at the time was an old, often nasty unattractive woman named Molly Yard, an easy mark for Limbaugh. A caller to his show tossed out the phrase "feminazi" and Limbaugh ran with it to syndication in New York a few months after the Fairness Doctrine was rescinded. Almost instantly he became the top radio personality in America which put feminazi into the dictionary. Within a few years AM Radio had become the most ubiquitous Right-wing propaganda machine in the world.
    You are every bit a dittohead whether you like it or not. A 13 year old child is not fair game for a 400 pound piggish adult to make fun of. The fact that you think it is okay speaks volumes to your lack of class and character.

    No, you derailed your own thread by calling me a liar. I am almost....almost...embarrased for you. You are making a fool of yourself.
     
  6. Bro. Curtis

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    OK, I read it, far from proof, but hey, I asked you to find it, you did. If he did indeed do it, it is shameful, it's horrible, disgusting, and should have gotten him fired. If he did it. (Maybe you should have put that up first)

    I do find the whole article a little suspect because of this statement....

    he sparred with GLADD up in San Francisco and soon expanded his mysigony to include all women who wore shoes and were not pregnant

    Obviously a lie, or at least an exxagerration. Rush is friends with many congresswomen, and they often call his show. Perhaps some other folks will suck up everything they read there, but for me, it's the little things, that strip away credibility.

    Second, Rush is a Romney guy, and he wants war with Iran. To call me a dittohead IS a misrepresentation of me.

    Third, I don't like Christians calling people pigs. If speaking out against it makes me sound like a fool, in your eyes, then so be it. You have not shown yourself to be any better than him.
     
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    Hey poncho, at first read, Limbaugh does appear to be calling the entire black population in the U.S. "stuck on stupid".

    And that is a little unsettling.

    Hard to argue with the points, tho. I think everybody would be better off voting strict constitutionalist, but it does seem the democrat party has done what it could to keep blacks from achieving all they can.
     
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    MP, I would LOVE to find another site that backs this up. This is absolutely appaling that he would do that, but you can't really get all indignant over something you read on a hyperbolic blog that refuses to back up what it says. I'm not having any luck at all finding anything. And it is not unlike the left to attack someone out of context, so if you would like to hear me denounce Rush in the highest terms possible, can we get a better source ?
     
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    I figure it all goes back to collectivism and the idea of diversity whatever that is. Everyone has a group they are assigned too and are conditioned to think that their group is being denied something by the others. It keeps all the "differences" dangling in front our noses all the time. Sure fire way to divide people and cause friction. Doesn't just apply to one group or another but all them.

    Not a great way of thinking to my way of thinking. But somebody must think it's a great way to think because the mass media and politicos...even the mega corporations marinades us all in it non stop 24/7. They're the ones pushing divisions and racism.
     
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    I did find this.....

    For a time, Dionne Warwick's song "I Know I'll Never Love This Way Again" preceded reports about people with AIDS

    From his Wikipedia entry.

    It seems that his early days he was all shock. He replaced Morton Downey Jr., so that's not suprising.

    Just for the record, Rush's early comments that I am finding about AIDS are inexcusable, and I'm more than a little ashamed.

    But I will always say we shouldn't be calling people pigs.

    I agree with Limbaugh's views on economic liberty, and I think his charity work is awesome, and I do find his skits funny. And I agree with the spirit of this article. But for the last six months, at least, I have been a Ron Paul supporter, and have wanted the troops home tomorrow. Those two facts alone keep me out of the "dittohead" club.
     
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    They're pushing a "you can't make it without us" platform. They're just doing it one race at a time.

    Larry Elder says....."Under Ronald Reagan - who cut the top tax rate from 70 percent to 28 percent - black income, business development and business growth exploded."

    Seems like the way to help blacks, is the same way to help everyone, let them keep their money.......
     
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    Ain't that truth! It's just about that simple too.

    One race at a time huh? Maybe, it seems like that sometimes. I think they play em all pretty good against one another. It's getting harder for me to even think in terms of democrats and republicans anymore Bro it doesn't compute like it used to. I just look at the whole mess as the state. Dehumanizes it and puts in more perspective. For me anyway. It's easier to deal with it naked maybe that's not the right word....

    All that party and ideology stuff is just drama to me these days. The state is what we're up agaisnt not democrats or republicans whatever. Know what I mean? Rush Limbaugh is just another talking head who's livelyhood is derived from keeping peoples heads buried in the sea of endless leftie - rightie back and forth bickering and name calling. Reminds me of what my grandmother used to say...there's a whole of motion goin on but nothins gettin done.

    He's a divider.
     
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    I don't see the logic. How have Democrats kept blacks uneducated by voting against school vouchers?
     
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    Curtis, quite honestly, I pulled that one from personal recollection. Like I said, I heard it myself. There apparently isn't a lot about it on the net, but that isn't surprising. Most small-time DJs didn't have there every bit recorded for posterity...and certainly nobody knew the media machine Limbaugh would become to save much of his early antics. And I am too tired to go on a deep search for more. But i can tell you this . . . I do NOT lie. If I post something wrong, it is either my faulty recollection or I had a mistaken belief. You and I rarely agree on much, but you can take to the bank that I do not lie to support an argument here.
     
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    I believe ya MP. :1_grouphug: and :)<-This is me...the individual. I don't want to be known as part of any "group" anymore.
     
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    If you insist on calling me a dittohead, then I reserve the right to call it a lie. Also, if you come onto a discussion going on, and throw in that I only dislike Obama because I don't want a black president, then I can call you a liar. That's when this started, and you and I have been at each other's throats, since. I don't want to settle this via PMs, but when you put something like that up, just expect that I'm going to be nipping at yer heels for sometime after.

    Also, if you can call Limbaugh a pig, then you can't complain when he does it.....that seems like common sense.
     
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    Fine, except that isn't what you called a lie. You called my pointing out Limbaugh's disgusting celebration of death a lie. I know better. And you need to let go and not drag resentment from another thread into every one where we both post.

    That said, I hold no animosity toward you. You may not be a dittohead, I'll give you that.. However your defense of him calling a young girl a dog gives that appearance. Do you really think that an adult ridiculing a child is fine?
     
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    Hey, that last post began and ended with the same word. Hmmm...
     
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    Overplaying issues is his MO.

    But he is still correct on this issue.

    Did you notice the usual suspects responded only to who the author was, not the issue itself? Predictable as well as pathetic.
     
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    Brother Curtis,
    I agree completely with your post. Another flawed point about the Obama campaign that the Clinton people constantly bring up is that Obama can never carry the big states that Clinton has won victories in such as New York, New Jersey, Mass, Cal, etc. That is baloney. Whoever the Democrat is that wins is going to carry these states in November. Personally, it makes no difference which one wins, as they are both an ever present danger to this country.
     
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