Featured Did Jesus Die On Your Cross?

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Woe up there, the hoss you are jumpin upon isn't yours to ride.

You seem to be equating the "bearing of the cross" with some human attribute that would guarantee assurance of salvation.

Not so.

Rather, Christ is showing how that only those who are willing to follow Christ are worthy of Christ. Just as Christ willing carried (until physically unable) the cross because that was His Father's will, the believer must be willing to follow the will of Christ.

37“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39“He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.
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Christ didn't speak of the cross as something that was to be on some checklist, but an attitude of service of follow - ship and fellowship.

When I was still in my youth, the missionaries in Quito, Ecuador were slaughtered. They followed Christ to the end of their life. Unfortunately, not all believers get to wear the martyrs' crown.

Follow-ship is what is important - just as Christ followed the Father's will, so the believer follows the will of God. That is what Christ was attending, and which I am beginning to question if you actually comprehend.

 

He dines on similar fare as you.

 

Go back to the beginning of our conversation. I showed you how you took his words and made it into heresy.

 

I will use the words of Peter (words you reject) that testify of Christ; testify of Him through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Therefore they are God's words.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

This teaching tells us that Christ took our place on the cross--a teaching that you do not accept. Instead you have created a heresy out of some other sayings of Christ.

 

John was An Apostle, so you do believ that the Apsotles when the wrote the NT books were same as what Jesus said in the Gospels, ALL from God?

 

So, you believe what John recorded that Jesus spoke, but you don't believe Peter or Paul?

Why?

Seems to me that all three spoke with the same authority. In fact, Peter states a profound respect for Paul, and John records the words of Peter.

Luke was a Gentile physician and fellow traveler/laborer with Paul. Do you take what Luke recorded that Jesus said, and the work Luke records in Acts, as the truth?

How about James. The authorship has also been in dispute but most would agree that he was an unsaved brother of Jesus who after conversion became the pastor of the very first Church. Do you take what He states as an accurate account?

Book of Matthew was written by a tax collector - an IRS agent - do you take his record as accurate?

The book of Mark - the authorship has been in dispute as to which Mark. Perhaps he was the John Mark companion of Peter who served as an interpreter, but the authorship is basically unknown. Do you rely upon that account?

I have put these down so that you may know what DHK and I (and others on the BB) rely upon.

That ALL Scriptures are the Scriptures and that not one can be taken out of context, used in isolation, or set as more ascendent than any other.

 

That should pretty much end the cat and mouse game.

 

Proverbs 26:4 - Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.

 

False.

John 19,NASB
17 They took Jesus, therefore, and He went out, bearing His own cross, to the place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha. [Emphasis added
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25 Therefore the soldiers did these things. But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. [Emphasis added

Galatians 6
14 But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.[Emphasis added]​

The Bible speaks very clearly of Jesus dying on His own cross, not mine, not yours not anyone else's. Were that the case -- that He needed to die on each of our crosses individually -- He would have to be crucified anew every time a believer came to knowledge of Christ. That's absurd.

The Cross fulfilled the first promise of God, becoming the "good thing" of which the sacrifices were a shadow. It was the event toward which the course of all events had progressed.

The Cross cast a long, deep shadow upon Israel -- its people, its priesthood, its temple, its rituals. Anyone with knowledge of the Scriptures would have seen, if rational and honest, that this man Jesus died in the same fashion as the lamb of the passover, in a night-of-death shadow that served as a transition, a time of change in which old things passed away and all things became new.

The Cross shed light into the darkness of the world, and indicated those stirrings of the Divine mercy which terminated in the proclamation of salvation to the world. As matter of history, since the Cross of Christ has begun to take effect, it has caused religious systems long of tooth and dead of spirit, and rooted by rebellious fibers in the hearts of the people, to be laid aside as worn-out garments.

It has spread civilization over many nations. It has been a key to unlock the treasures of all useful knowledge. It has elevated art, widened commerce, removed the chains from the slave. It has founded hospitals and schools, checked the harsh government of rulers, quelled the anarchy of subjects, restored woman to her rightful position of partnership and equality, imparted peace and joy to the home, exalted nations, and is now both the light and leaven of the world. The Cross of Christ alone saves. There is no other.

 

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

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I just did. If you don't like it, tough.

 

The light switch was for you.

Now while the light shone upon all when you flipped the switch, it was for you.

The others did not see you or each other, for they had not yet flipped the switch for themselves.

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