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Did Obama REALLY Inherit a Mess?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    The numbers don't lie ... but the politicians and their spin doctors do!

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    Fifty views., and still no liberal arguments. The truth does make it difficult to debate. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Might just be you.:sleep:
     
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    No, they don't. But too bad it's no longer 2011, which is where these numbers are from.


    Hey, if you've got to post stuff that's 4 years old to take a swipe at Obama, you've got a bitterness issue.


    LOL! Easy as swatting flies on a rhino's @ss.


    People, please fact check your posts before you post them.
     
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    The OP was a snapshot that is now 4 years old and the picture if much improved now. Let's put a bit of perspective on it. Here are graphics of the Bush years showing what Obama inherited. Sorry the 4 charts are so large. I know of no way to make them smaller.

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    Unemployment rate is now 5.5%, about where it was at in 2004 and early 2008. Obama's had 6 years, why isn't unemployment below 5%? After 9/11 unemployment spiked but Bush got it back to where it was at in less than 6 years.


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    Because the GOP stonewalled and said "NO" to everything the would have helped. They slowed down the recovery and should be held accountable. Of course we now see even though they have a majority in both houses of congress they still cannot get anything done as they squabble with each other so much.
     
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    Wrong. The Dems controlled the House and Senate in 2009-2010 and passed the $831 billion Stimulus bill, the automotive bailout bill, cash for clunkers, ObamaCare, Wall Street reform, extension of unemployment benefits. He even extended the Bush tax cuts.

    Yes, the Republicans gained control of the House in 2010, but by then most, if not all, of Obama's economic policies had been enacted. Name one piece of legislation that the Republicans blocked in Obama's first two years.
     
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    You are correct about 2009-2010, but the GOP Senate stonewalled everything they could. It was impossible to get 60 votes to force an issue.

    They simply were able to ensure nothing was done. There were two reasons for this:

    1. So Obama could not get credit for anything.
    2. Because the GOP could not come together and agree with each other on anything.

     
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    In his 8 years as president Ronald Reagan NEVER had the House on his side. He had the Senate for 6 of those 8 years.

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    You are correct about 2009-2010, but the GOP Senate stonewalled everything they could. It was impossible to get 60 votes to force an issue.

    They simply were able to ensure nothing was done. There were two reasons for this:

    1. So Obama could not get credit for anything.
    2. Because the GOP could not come together and agree with each other on anything.

     
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    OP is about the economic "mess" that Obama inherited. Obama's solutions to the economic mess were passed in 2009-2010. True, in later years Republicans blocked him on other legislation, but these bills did not directly affect the economy. Obama got his tax hike on the rich in January 2013. I wonder why he didn't enact that when he had control of both sections of Congress?
     
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    Because Obama and the Bush's work for the same oligarchs who've made out like the bandits they are during both administrations.
     
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    I will never say that Bush was without problems. He had many and did his share to ruin this economy!

    But, any spin you guys are giving to prop up Obama is nothing more than spin!

    People and polls are what counts, and they show Obama is not fixing the economy, but rather harming it!

    CNNN shows Obama down 51% to 47% http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/poll-obama-approval-rating-economy/index.html

    Anyone can dig up polls that show I am wrong, but this CNN poll is from a liberal network that leans and loves Obama. So that should say something.

    Debate over! :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Bottom line is that, yes, Obama did inherit a mess. Then...

    He's spent 6 plus years making it worse and creating problems that did not exist or exacerbating those that did.
     
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    And here I've gone through life thinking that it's the facts that matter. Silly me.
     
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