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Did sin only affect man?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Frogman, May 3, 2005.

  1. Frogman

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    Did the entrance of sin affect only the condition of man, or that of the whole of the creation of God?

    a debtor to Free Grace,
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  2. Wes Outwest

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    What other species deliberately sins?
     
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    Great question. The fall affected all of creation.

    "For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies." Rom 8:18-23

    Another question - who is the one who subjected creation to futility?
     
  4. David Michael Harris

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    Good question. It seems sin existed before the fall of man.

    David
     
  5. David Michael Harris

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    I always thought God the Father, who else?
    All things exist for Him, although from what I read, the earth and everything in it exists for Jesus, ie, the Word of God, the Son of God.

    That should stir a hornets nest :)

    David
     
  6. icthus

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    Good question. It seems sin existed before the fall of man.

    David
    </font>[/QUOTE]David, I assume you are referring to the rebellion of satan and his angels? There was no one else around before Adam and Eve.
     
  7. Scott J

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    Good question. It seems sin existed before the fall of man.

    David
    </font>[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Satan and the fallen angels or something else?
     
  8. David Michael Harris

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    Good question. It seems sin existed before the fall of man.

    David
    </font>[/QUOTE]David, I assume you are referring to the rebellion of satan and his angels? There was no one else around before Adam and Eve.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Simply yes, it seems that way but whether its the same is a matter of debate. Where there is no law and all that.

    Your very bold to finalise things that you cannot know. We only know things that are declared through the Bible.

    It says somewhere about Gods judgement on Angels who SINNED.

    David
     
  9. David Michael Harris

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    I think that in Christ, God is dealing with Sin for ever. Never Again will sin spoil Gods works. And the power of Christ's Sacrifice will never diminish.

    "Behold, I create ALL THINGS NEW, the former things will not be remembered, niether will they come to mind".
    The Bible.

    David
     
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