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Yep...since when is the office of the VEEP not part of the executive branch, nor subject to laws like freedom of information. This administration is way out of control.

 

Agreed about them being out of control, but the reasoning (as reported) is because the VP holds a unique office is also part of the Legislative Branch (Senate). Thus, that is the tack they are taking.

 

And it is the correct and lawful tack.:thumbs:

 

The vice president is clearly a member of the executive branch of the federal government. For Vice President Cheney to claim otherwise is nonsensical.

But this administration hasn't given more than lip service to the federal constitution since 9/11/2001.

 

Since when have presidents been required to divulge information from presidential advisors? How competent or forthright will someone's counsel and input be when they have to wonder whether or not it will be used against them?

Requiring divulging of executive branch meetings and counsel is not only bad precedent, I would think it would be unconstitutional under the separation of powers part of the constitution.

Cheney has said and done a lot of dumb things, but this issue is not a valid one. If the Dems want to know what goes on executive branch meetings, then win the election and assume the power of the executive branch. Until then, let the president seek advice and counsel without jeopardy.

 

Welcome to 21st century politics. After Clinton's impeachment, pundits opined that Dems would strike back at the next GOP admin. They have. The GOP will strike back at the next Dem admin. The cycle will be vicious and never-ending. And it will all be financed by taxpayer dollars.

 

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w.../05/11/court_backs_cheney_on_energy_meetings/

Court backs Cheney on energy meetings
Details on private strategy sessions to remain as such

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | May 11, 2005

WASHINGTON -- A federal appeals court ruled yesterday that Vice President Dick Cheney will not have to release details about the role of energy executives in private meetings Cheney held to craft national energy strategies, a decision that probably brings an end to a long-running and politically charged lawsuit.
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The Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia unanimously ruled that there was no evidence that energy lobbyists were official participants in Cheney's private energy policy task force meetings, so its records do not have to be disclosed.

''In making decisions on personnel and policy, and in formulating legislative proposals, the president must be free to seek confidential information from many sources, both inside the government and outside," the court wrote.

 

Ooooh! that's going to leave a mark!

 

It also affirmed the legality of Cheney's action. Your smear job by innuendo failed.

 

A casual reading of Clinton's Executive Order makes it clear that the ISO is to oversee government "agencies" declassification process.

The Vice President's office, as well as the Presidency and Congressional offices are not "agencies" of the Federal Government. Cheney has a point.

They are elected offices, not "agencies".

 

And yet again, you are wrong, but convinced.

 

edited out, as Pastor Larry and Carpro sufficiently explored the truth.

 

The vice president is clearly a member of the executive branch. Presiding over the U.S. Senate once in a blue moon doesn't change that fact.

If one reads the U.S. constitution, then he will see that the office of vice president was created by Article II - the same Article that created the office of president.

The legislative branch was created by Article I.

 

Who, besides Waxman, said he wasn't?