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Didn't the pentacostals get theology From Wesley?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Yeshua1, Apr 19, 2013.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    that the theology of the groups such as AoG, 4 square Gospel etc actually have their theology pretty much taken from those views held by John Wesley and holiness groups prior century?
     
    #1 Yeshua1, Apr 19, 2013
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    Having Gone to a Pentecostal university (COG) I know for a fact their theology is Wesleyan.
     
    #2 Thinkingstuff, Apr 19, 2013
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    There are two groups of Pentecostals: those who came from Baptists, and those who came out of Holiness/Wesleyan churches. The former includes the Assemblies of God, and the latter includes the Church of God. Difference between the two is that the Baptist-influenced Pentecostals (AoG) believe in two experiences or works of grace -- conversion and then HS baptism with tongues; the Holiness/Wesleyan-influenced groups believe in three experiences: conversion, entire sanctification, and then HS baptism with evidence of tongues.
     
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    so at least those groups/churches can claim they have derived their doctrines from the bible, as seen thru baptist/holiness lens, unline modern charasmatics, who want to point to 1905!
     
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    No, actually that is not so. The Pentecostal movement dates back to Charles Parham and William J. Seymour in 1900-1905. Charismatic movement began much later and in the 60's Episcopal priest Dennis Bennett began it in the mainline churches.
     
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    but there seems to be a difference between the old line pentacostals and the new Charasmatics right?

    As when I was in the AoG, their official positions were against teaching of word of faith prosperity etc, and they seemed to NOT hold to modern day Apsotles.prophets with ongoing revelations today?
     
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    Yes, there is a difference. Not all modern charismatics hold that tongues is the initial evidence of the HS baptism. See John Wimber's Vineyard churches, for example.
     
    #7 Thomas Helwys, Apr 22, 2013
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