Different Gospel

stubbornkelly, could you please reference one commonly accepted biblical translation that casts homosexuality in a positive light?

In the Father,

Russ <><

 

I must have made myself misunderstood, Massdak. Because based on your logic, why should I try to understand your position? I think you're wrong, so I must not need to understand the other side, right?

Rubbish.

In order to have any sort of dialogue - I'm speaking generally - we need to understand each other. How else to help each other (again, generally. I'm sure no one around here needs help on this particular issue we've gotten ourselves into)?

Why not address what issues I raised? Or is the only thing to say that we're wrong and you're right? How do you come to that? Why is it so far-fetched to believe that others of us have legitimate differences of opinion? That we simply must be putting a liberal spin on Scripture because we're more liberal than you. What kind of logic is that. It's not liberalism that makes one see things differently; it's the way we see things that makes us liberal.

You do me and everyone else a disservice when you dismiss us without hearing what we have to say. You also do yourself a disservice by shutting yourself off. If nothing else, I would think you'd want to keep talking so you could make your position known and even more clear.

If I'd shut myself off to what I believed to be wrong, I wouldn't be a Christian right now. Just food for thought.

new man, I don't have any. But I refute the standard verses used to call homosexuality sinful. There are myriad other threads on this issue. If you like, we can go to one of those and discuss homosexuality.

 

Are you a Hebrew and/or Greek scholar? Do you claim a greater knowledge of these languages than the hundreds of scholars that have given us our translations?

In the Father,

Russ <><

 

you are being willingly ignorant, take these verses and see once again the truth in Gods word. then once you read them either believe the truth of the scriptures or not, but be honest and instead of avoiding them as i see you do with the question that new man asked of you, either tear them out of your bible or acknowledge and repent of your stubborn and illogical debate about a clear biblical issue.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

 

Ok, i didn't read this whole thread, just the first and last page.

Jas 2:24
You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

Repentance and holy living are the fruits of the foundation in Christ. If you can see not fruit, questions will be made about the roots.

Homosexuality is a sin - Bible clearly states that, if someone believes that it is not, then they have been misled.

Christians believeing that homosexuality is ok is part of the infection of society. Christians are being ripped apart in the US. Doing all in the 'name of love', true we are to be loving, but remember, telling the truth is loving, and Jesus always told someone when they were sinners.

This is kinda of thread, but anyway.
We must put to death the lies of Satan. Perfectly damnable doctrines such as baptism being required for salvation must be destroyed.

They can take the one or two verses they skewered for support, but they cannot make it fit in with the rest of the Bible and the Character of God.

maybe I should make a new thread.