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Dinosaurs!!! What happened to them??

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by TaliOrlando, Jul 11, 2006.

  1. TaliOrlando

    TaliOrlando New Member

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    Check this link out or read below
    http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ25.html#wp1614541
    www.creationscience.com It has a great theory on Noahs Flood as well. Check it out and let me know what you brother and sisters in Christ think!!!!!


    What about the Dinosaurs?

    This frequent question, asked in just this way, implies many questions related to dinosaurs—a word meaning “terrible lizards.” When did they live? What killed the dinosaurs? What were they like? What does the Bible say about them? Could so many large animals have fit on the Ark? There were about 300 different types of dinosaurs. Most were large; some even gigantic. One adult dinosaur was as tall as a five-story building. However, some adults were small, about the size of a chicken.

    Many questions will be answered if we focus on one question, “When did they live?” Two quite different answers are usually given. Evolutionists say dinosaurs lived, died, and became extinct at least 60 million years before man evolved. Others believe God created all living things during the creation week, so man and dinosaurs lived at the same time. If we look at the evidence, sorting out these two very different answers should be easy.

    Did dinosaurs become extinct at least 60 million years before man evolved? Almost all textbooks that address the subject say they did. Movies and television vividly portray this. One hears it even at Disney World and other amusement parks. Some will say that every educated person believes this. We frequently hear stories that begin with impressive-sounding phrases such as, “Two hundred million years ago, as dinosaurs ruled the earth, ...” But none of this is evidence; some of it is an appeal to authority. (Evidence must be observable and verifiable.)

    Did man and dinosaurs live at the same time? Scientists in the former Soviet Union have reported a layer of rock containing more than 2,000 dinosaur footprints alongside tracks “resembling human footprints.”1 Obviously, both types of footprints were made in mud or sand that later hardened into rock. If some are human footprints, then man and dinosaurs lived at the same time. Similar discoveries have been made in Arizona.2 Were it not for the theory of evolution, few would doubt that these were human footprints.

    Soft dinosaur tissue has now been recovered from several dinosaurs: three tyrannosaurs (T rex) and one hadrosaur. It is ridiculous to believe that soft tissue can be preserved for more than 60,000,000 years, but it could be preserved for 5,000 years. [For details see “Old DNA, Bacteria, and Proteins?” on page 33.]

    The Book of Job is one of the oldest books ever written. In it, God tells of His greatness as Creator and describes an animal, called Behemoth, as follows:

    Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass like an ox. Behold now, his strength in his loins, And his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron. (Job 40:15–18)

    Marginal notes in most Bibles speculate that Behemoth was probably an elephant or a hippopotamus, but those animals have tails like ropes. Behemoth had a “tail like a cedar.” Any animal with a tail as huge and strong as a cedar tree is probably a dinosaur. Also, Job 40:19–24 says this giant, difficult-to-capture animal was not alarmed by a raging river. If the writer of Job knew of a dinosaur, then the evolution position is wrong, and man saw dinosaurs.

    The next chapter of Job describes another huge, fierce animal, a sea monster named Leviathan.3 It was not a whale or crocodile, because the Hebrew language had other words to describe such animals. Leviathan may be a plesiosaur (PLEE see uh sore), a large seagoing reptile that evolutionists say became extinct 60 million years before man evolved.

    For the past three centuries, reports have come from the Congo in western Africa that dinosaurs exist in remote swamps. Eyewitness stories are often from educated people who can quickly describe dinosaurs. Two expeditions to the Congo, led by biologist Dr. Roy Mackal of the University of Chicago, never saw dinosaurs, but interviewed many of these witnesses and concluded that their reports were about dinosaurs and were apparently true.5 If any of these accounts are correct, man and dinosaurs were contemporaries.

    Consider the many dragon legends. Most ancient cultures have stories or artwork of dragons that strongly resemble dinosaurs.6 The World Book Encyclopedia states that:

    The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth. Dragons were generally evil and destructive. Every country had them in its mythology.7

    The simplest and most obvious explanation for so many common descriptions of dragons from around the world is that man once knew the dinosaurs.

    What caused the extinction of dinosaurs? Primarily, the flood. Because dinosaur bones are found among other fossils, dinosaurs must have been living when the flood began. Dozens of other dinosaur extinction theories exist, but all have recognized problems. [See pages 109–110.] Most of the food chain was buried in the flood. Therefore, many large dinosaurs that survived the flood probably had difficulty feeding themselves and became extinct.

    Were dinosaurs on the Ark? Yes. God told Noah to put representatives of every kind of land animal on the Ark. (Some dinosaurs were semiaquatic and could have survived outside the Ark.) But why put adult dinosaurs on the Ark? Young dinosaurs would take up less room, eat less, and be easier to manage. The purpose for having animals on board was so they could reproduce after the flood and repopulate the earth. Young dinosaurs would have more potential for reproduction than old dinosaurs.

    Certain bones in dinosaur bodies show annual growth rings, as trees do. Dinosaurs, early in life and late in life, grew at very slow rates. During mid-life, they went through huge growth spurts.8 Therefore, during the year dinosaurs were on the Ark, juveniles probably weighed less than 60 pounds. (A 2-year-old T rex weighed 66 pounds. The largest T rex known, lived to be 28 years.9 Dinosaurs did not become large because they lived long lives.)
     
  2. bmerr

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    gekko,

    bmerr here. The idea of "pre-history" seems to derive from evolutionary teaching. The Bible gives us the history of the earth, especially the first week of it's existence. There is no "gap" between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2. I forget who mentioned the "gap theory" earlier.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
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    The Bible isn't primarily a history book, nor is it in any way a scientific treatise. It is a book of theology.
     
  4. gekko

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    exactly. i dont hold to evolutionary teachings.

    but how do you explain leviathan and behemoth?

    why would God use something Job's never seen or heard of - if they were not alive?

    they were obviously alive at the time of Job.
     
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    gekko,

    bmerr here. Didn't mean to imply that you held evolutionary ideas. i just think they are the source of words like, "Prehistoric", etc. They carry the idea that Man has only been around to record history for the last little bit of earth's history.

    I'm of the opinion that what we call dinosaurs were among the animals Noah brought on the ark with him. Everything with the breath of life in it's nostrils, right?

    And, Pizza, while it's true the Bible is not primarily a book of history, or science, there are facts about history and science that are found in the Bible.

    Taliorlando has had some good posts on this one.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
  6. BobRyan

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    Aren't they both at home in the water?

    The dinosaurs that could live in water could survive.
     
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    Not the behemoth.
     
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    When Israel leaves Egypt do they "scientifically leave"? Do they merely "theologically leave"?

    Since there is no contradiction between EVENTS that God tells us about and EVENTS the actually "happen" there is no need to discount what HE says simply because He does not express "events" in terms of a formula or an equation of some kind. The truth is we almost NEVER do that in real life and yet ALL those "real life events" keep happening.

    NEITHER do we discount a court record of a testimony when that eye witness does not express the report of "Events" in the form of an equation.

    Every day "events" happen - even when you step outside a laboratory.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  9. gekko

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    behemoth lived(lives) on land.

    leviathan in both water and on land.
     
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    Gekko,,Have you ever visited the badlands of ALberta? That is where they claim to uncovered the pre-historic bones of animals such as dinosaurs. They have great displays there as well.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  11. BobRyan

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    Behemoth appears to be a bit more at home in the water than some might like to think --

    22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. 23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

    Or maybe he is just well known for being very thirsty
     
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    Due to the sheer size and massive weight of the brontosaurus, they did spend a lot of time in water...like hippo's do.
     
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    SILO was having a sale.
     
  14. gekko

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    yes Jim. i've been to the badlands. drumheller is amazing. great place.
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    bobryan.

    "Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed and fens. the shady trees cover him with their shadow..."

    the verses after that expand on how large this animal was. metaphors - similies etc.

    the behemoth was not just a water dweller. it got its food from the mountains. lays under the shady trees. but did spend time in the water... where are reeds and fens found? just from speculation im guessing they're found in water...
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    if you're suggesting that the behemoth was a hippo. read the scripture again.
    does the hippo move its tail "like a cedar" ?

    no. neither does an elephant.

    so hippo and elephant are ruled out.
     
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    I'm not suggesting they were hippos. Reread what I posted. I'm suggesting they were brontosaurs'. I said LIKE HIPPOS they spent a lot of time in the water.
     
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    I have a friend who says his wife is a dinosaur. Her ancestors survived the flood and everything (he says). Proof positive that the flood was local.
     
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