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Featured Discussion of the "Names" used to reference the "I am that I am"

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by T Alan, Dec 5, 2014.

  1. T Alan

    T Alan New Member

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    Okay, I am here to be taught. What "name, phrase, word" should come from my lips to reference The Creator of the Heavens and all thing therein?
     
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    I guess it depends! Some times I think of Him as God; sometimes as Lord; sometimes as Lord God; sometimes as Father; sometimes as Holy Father; sometimes as Lord God, Creator of all that exists; sometimes as the Great I AM. I suppose it depends on what is on my mind.

    I can recall as a child and young man hearing Old Regular Baptist preachers call Him the Great I AM; totally appropriate.

    I rarely think of Him as Jehovah or Yahweh unless I am reading something where those names are used.
     
  3. T Alan

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    I am curious as to why? It almost seems that in "today's world" they are "taboo". Most especially, Jehovah.
     
  4. T Alan

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    In Genesis 1:1, the term "God" is used and the strong's 430 is assigned Elohim. The next usage is "LORD" (all caps) and is Jehovah.
     
  5. T Alan

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    Those names, since translated in those instances seem very good "Names" to me. Although I know Elohim is also used of "other" "gods" (lower case G)
     
  6. T Alan

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    To call him "God" seems to like me to refer to you as "man".
     
  7. T Alan

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    Above are my main points. I will sit back now listen to the "grown ups" talk. :)
     
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  9. T Alan

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    Try this; stand out side a Baptist Church with a handful of The Baptist Faith and Message folded over and greet people on The Lord's Day, offering one and say "There's NO god like Jehovah" and I would wager they will smile and walk away, some may say, " No thanks, I'm Baptist." others may say "would you like to come in and hear the truth" (Popeye laugh):thumbs::jesus:
     
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    Daddy......
     
  12. T Alan

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    haha! you're wanting to get slammed. haha. If you want to call Him "daddy" you must say "Abba" or else you're slighting Him with such a "secular" term. ;)
     
  13. T Alan

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    Surely, there is a Seminary Graduate out there, eating lunch about now and browsing this forum that knows the most accurate term to use. Anthropomorphically speaking, of course.
     
  14. OldRegular

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    I suppose it is the unfamiliarity. The Name Jehovah appears only 4 times in the KJV and ten times in the ASV and not at all in the NASB.

    Young's Literal Translation uses Jehovah 5787 times but who reads Young's Literal.

    Jay Green's Literal Translation uses Jehovah 5809 times but who reads Green's Literal.

    The Modern KJV by Jay Green uses Jehovah only 379 times.

    The KJV3 by Jay Green uses Jehovah but I do not know how often.

    I an not sure whether the ESV uses either name.
     
  15. T Alan

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    You must mean the Actual spelling Jehovah? Because according to the strongs concordance the english is translating those names in Hebrew many more than 4 times.
    http://www.godrules.net/library/kjvstrongs/kjvstrongs.htm
     
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    You are correct. I believe the English name LORD is generally used to translate the Hebrew name of God.
     
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    Well if we are going to talk about the name of God, Jehovah is not one of them. Jehovah goes back to the 12th century AD and is a hybrid of YHWH and Adoni. When you see LORD in an English Translation it is from the Hebrew YHWH or Yahweh. Lord is from the Hebrew Adoni and God is from the Hebrew Elohim.

    Now you add to the fact that the name Jehovah has been hijacked by the JW, its a term I would not be comfortable using, both because I know its history and I know the connotations that people associate with it. When I talk about God, I usually just say God, or if I'm am specifying which member of the God-head I will say the God the Father or some other specific name.
     
  18. T Alan

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    Welcome to the discussion Ms. Proverb 31. First, would you supply the reference you have for the name "Jehovah" originating (if that's indeed what you mean) in the 12th century.

    Secondly, If it is the Hebrew word for Him, why "not" use it just because a "Cult" has attached it to their group (JW)?

    Thirdly is "God the Father" a specific name? It seems to me that God is "what" He is not "Who".
     
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    okay, somebody tell me why this list (understanding it isn't all inclusive) omits "Elohim" as that seems to be the name (430) when the English uses God.
     
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    I don't have a link, but I know I have read it in several books, of course they are in Colorado. Justin Peters talks about that in his series on WOF teaching, also the ESV translations notes at the beginning mention the or
    of Jehovah being a hybrid of YHWH and Adoni.

    If I'm going to use a Hebrew Word I will use the correct one of Yahweh.
    Also for me it has the whole meat sacrificed to idol stigma attached to it. You yourself in previous post in this tread point out that if you stand outside a Baptist church and I would even argue outside of any Evangelical church and said there is not God but Jehovah you would be branded a JW.

    Third no its not a name its a way of distinguishing the Persons of the Godhead. I was just trying to head a question off at the pass and apparently raised a few more in the process :)
     
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