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Dispensationalists

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Repent_and_Believe, Mar 1, 2005.

  1. Paul33

    Paul33 New Member

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    Amen. Where's the moderator now to tell Ed not to make it personal. How demeaning and insulting to be told again and again by Ed that we don't understand or worse yet, don't want to understand. Just what are you implying, Ed?

    I'm going to take a personal break from this forum for a few days, mainly because I have alot of work to do, but also, because I find this discussion to be so unfruitful. Accusations, insinuations, snips! Good grief.

    But try to have a normal discussion concerning any verse in Scripture with some on this board and it is virtually impossible. Actually, it is impossible.

    Words don't mean anything. Context doesn't mean anything. Analogies don't make sense.

    Ed, the question that comes from the analogy you pose is this: Is God one or many?

    But the analogy itself is irrelevent and worthless.

    Signing off.
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    I think it is obvious who is building and
    who is creating static. I am a
    Biblical Dispensationalist.
     
  3. OldRegular

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    Biblical Dispensationalist: Isn't that an oxymoron?
     
  4. Ed Edwards

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    How can a person who doesn't know 'mystery'
    (it's Bible definition is in Ephesians 3:%)
    really know what an 'oxymoron' might be?
     
  5. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    My dictionary told me. But I won't tell you.

    Anyhow, I thought the Mystery was that passage of Scripture that proves there is a pretrib rapture. No one seems to be able to find it so it must be a mystery! :D
     
  6. Ed Edwards

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    Here is the 8:06EST post you reference:

    Please go to POSTING RULES at the bottom of
    the page and show which rule you think I
    violated. Please show how i violated it.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. OldRegular

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    Here is the 8:06EST post you reference:

    Please go to POSTING RULES at the bottom of
    the page and show which rule you think I
    violated. Please show how i violated it.

    [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]3. Show grace to the other posters.

    Your attitude toward those who disagree is one of thinly veiled contempt, certainly not grace. For example the following posts

    March 08, 2005 07:55 PM.                          
    "How can a person who doesn't know 'mystery'
    (it's Bible definition is in Ephesians 3:%)
    really know what an 'oxymoron' might be?"

    March 07, 2005 07:32 PM
    “If you would like a second opinion, i have one
    (second related to one )”

    March 07, 2005 08:06 PM
    “But that is hard to explain to those
    who don't want to understand. “

    March 05, 2005 09:09 AM
    “Mystic a-mill outline:
    0.-5. Ahhhh ummmm! “

    March 05, 2005 10:10 AM
    “But in this age we are in (the Church Age,
    not the mystic's age) there are divisions:”

    It is ok to refer continually to amillennialists as mystics, incapable of or unwilling to understand, or ignorant but to call a dispensationalist a Darbyite is “verboten”.
     
  8. av1611jim

    av1611jim New Member

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    Old Regular.
    Get used to it. I have experienced the same in the versions forum. [​IMG]
    I will say in defense of certain mods, there are individuals who are a bit more gracious than others.
    But WOE unto the man who "steps on the toes" of others' pet doctrines.

    In HIS service;
    Jim
     
  9. Paul33

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    What's odd is that dispensationalists flee from their founder. It is historically proven that Scofield learned his dispensationalism at the feet of Darby who learned it from shall I dare say his name.

    Maybe that's the problem. Maybe they know that it really came from the guy I can't mention who learned it from the girl we can't mention. [​IMG]
     
  10. mcgyver

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    O.K.....

    So, What's the score now? :rolleyes:

    (back to our regularly scheduled debate)
     
  11. OldRegular

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    You make a cogent point Paul. Any relation to the Apostle?
     
  12. Ed Edwards

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    Oh i see:
    3. Show grace to the other posters

    When i said:
    Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
    Is God unity or trininy?

    Yes.

    Are God's people one or many?

    Yes.

    But that is hard to explain to those
    who don't want to understand.


    Needs to be revised:

    But that is hard to explain to those persons not on this
    board who may find it difficult to understand.
     
  13. Ed Edwards

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    Paul33: "What's odd is that dispensationalists flee from their founder"

    Sorry, but you seem to be bound to damn any dispensatinalist
    somehow. Here you damn us for not sticking to our founder.
    If that weren't possible, you would have damned us to sticking
    to our founder.

    BTW, this cuts to the quick. Thus a rule is violated:
    3. Show grace to the other posters I know i looked up
    "dispensation" in two books:

    1. a dictionary
    2. The Holy Bible.

    But i didn't look long enough to even say one definative
    statements. Instead anti-dispies attacked with a frountal attack
    so i could say nothing. Come on guys, go back to your a-mill
    safety net and quit harrassing this topic. Thank you.
     
  14. Ed Edwards

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    Someone: //Your attitude toward those who disagree is one of thinly veiled contempt, certainly not grace. For example the following posts

    ...

    March 05, 2005 09:09 AM
    “Mystic a-mill outline:
    0.-5. Ahhhh ummmm! “//

    Would one then defend that Mystic A-mill is a thoughtful position?
    I thought one said that such a think doesn't exit. So i'm
    in contempt of something that doesn't exit?
    Recommend then one define this doctrine BETTER THAN I DID
    in an a-mill thread that i've opted ouot of
     
  15. Ed Edwards

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    2 Peter 2:10 (KJV1769 edition):

    10. But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust
    of uncleanness, and despise government ...

    Sorry folks, but the "certain mods" are the government
    at Baptist Board (BB). Dispising them makes one look like
    a false teacher.
     
  16. Ed Edwards

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    March 05, 2005 09:09 AM
    “Mystic a-mill outline:
    0.-5. Ahhhh ummmm! “

    ...

    Whomever: //It is ok to refer continually to
    amillennialists as mystics, ... //

    I deny the charge. I gave three different "modifier a-mill"
    definitions. To assume to that i specified mystic a-mill
    for anybody here is a LEAP OF FAITH. Jump into the abyss
    if you will??? I don't think anybody i've posted with on the BB
    is a mystic Christian who takes the mystic a-mill position.
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    Anybody have any comments about Biblically
    based 'dispensationalism'.

    Feel free to make some of your own Darbian
    strawmen to demolish and/or burn.
     
  18. mcgyver

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    Hi Ed........

    Here are a couple of thoughts:

    1. Believing that there will be a rapture and millenial reign of Christ, makes one a follower of Darby in the same way that going into a pet store makes one a cat....

    2. That since what is good for the goose is also good for the gander..(to wit: We keep seeing the demand for a "single verse of scripture saying that there will be a rapture")...

    In the Interest of fairplay:
    Please show a SINGLE VERSE of scripture saying "there is no such thing as the rapture"...and please show a SINGLE VERSE of scripture saying: "There will not be a literal 1000 year reign of Christ upon the Earth"

    ;)
     
  19. Paul33

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    But we can show a single verse that shows a post-trib rapture and a single verse that shows a thousand year reign of Christ.

    Eph. 1:10 God is going to gather together all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth, even in him.

    Using classic dispensational lingo, that means the heavenly people (church) and the earthly people (Israel)are joined together in Christ!

    Oops! But that's not what classic dispensationalism teaches.

    The problem with classic dispensationalism is that it sees the dispensations as discontinuous instead of progressive! God's separate and distinct plans for different dispensations instead of God's unfolding plan through dispensations.
     
  20. Ed Edwards

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    I missed this being said up topic.
    Can you find it for me?

    Again, you are demolilshing strawmen.
     
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