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Dispensations

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by a street preacher, Apr 29, 2002.

  1. a street preacher

    a street preacher New Member

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    Could some one explain this doctrine? and is it scriptural? I would like to challenge you to prove this doctrine using only the word of God, don't use baptist doctrine or traditions of men use only biblical doctrine.
    I have been doing a study on the doctrine of Lordship Salvation and ran across some material in the article on dispensational churches. So are there really dispensations? or is there something else? the article can be found at www.Jesus-is-Lord.com/lordship.htm

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  2. Ray Berrian

    Ray Berrian New Member

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    Dispensationalism is a Biblical fact in God's continuing history of salvation and in that which will move humankind from one venue to another through His sovereign will for the ages.

    No exegisis or commentary only Scripture. Note: I Cor. 9:17; Ephesians 1:10; Ephesians 3:2; Colossians 1:25.

    Dr. Berrian
     
  3. swaimj

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    A Street Preacher,
    Three dispensations are clearly named in the NT. 1. Eph. 3:2 identifies the present dispensation, calling it the dispensation of the grace of God. 2. The parallel passage to this, Col. 1:25,26, shows that there was a previous dispensation to this one in which the mystery of "Christ in you the hope of glory" was not revealed. Dispensationalists would call this one the dispensation of the law.
    3. A third dispensation is seen in Eph 1:10 and it is called the dispensation of the fulness of time. This one will begin in the future.

    If we are correct in saying that #2 is the law, the law did not begin until hundreds of years after the beginning of human history, so we can assume at least one dispensation prior to the law, making four. Since there is a clear distinction prior to the law between God's dealing with man prior to the fall of Adam and his dealing after the fall, we can reasonably assume that there are two dispensations before the law, at least, which would bring the total to five.

    It is clear that the Bible does dilineate dispensations and given the ones of which it speaks, it is hard to conclude that there are fewer than five.
     
  4. Don

    Don Well-Known Member

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    Then there are the dispensations that we have created ourselves, such as the Acts 2 dispensationalists, Acts 9 dispensationalists, etc., etc....
     
  5. Joy

    Joy New Member

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    Here is a link to a good overview of Dispensationalism.

    http://answers.org/theology/dispensationalism.html

    I am a strict dispensationalist, but Don is right- there are "hyper-dispensationalists," and they have gone a little bit too far. Anyone who follows the writings of Cornelius Stam believes in "hyper-dispensationalism." Much of my family adhere to this type of dispensationalism.
     
  6. donnA

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    Ok, so there must be an opposing view, what is it? Admittitly I don't don't know much about this subject.
     
  7. russell55

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    There are various opposing views.

    There is covenant theology, which sees God dealing with man since the fall through one covenant, the covenant of grace. There are two administrations of this covenant, but this viewpoint emphasises the similarities of the old and new.

    There is new covenant theology, which sees the overarching covenant as the covenant of Abraham. This covenant is fulfilled through the old covenant--the mosaic one, and the new covenant--the one Christ instituted. This viewpoint sees the covenants as distinct--not just two administrations of the same covenant, and also sees the old covenant as finished, done with...

    There is progressive dispensationalism, which is, IMHO, pretty close to NCT, and not very close to traditional dispensationalism, but keeps the dispensational pre-mill view of the end times.

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  8. wordsworth

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    Hey, now on to more important things.

    Are you really a street preacher?

    In Christ,
    Wordsworth
     
  9. Molly

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    Wordsworth,

    I need to write you back in regards to your private message....can you write me again and make it to where you can receive private messages?

    Thanks,
    Molly
     
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  12. Ray Berrian

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    One of the most competent proponents of Dispensationalism is Charles C. Ryrie who earned a Th.D. from Dallas theological Seminary and the Ph.D. from the University of Edinburg. He has written twenty-eight books with more than l.5 million copies worldwide. He teaches that there are seven dispensations.

    The Dispensation of Innocency
    The Dispensation of Conscience
    The Dispensation of Civil Government
    The Dispensation of Promise or Patriarchal Rule
    The Dispensation of the Mosaic Law
    The Dispensation of Grace
    The Dispensation of the Millennium

    TDOI--Adam & Eve Before The Fall
    TDOC-Accountable Response to Prompting of Conscience
    TDOCG The Rule of Human Government
    TDOPOPR Abraham Believes And Loves God
    TDOTML The Great Code-613 Laws For Life & Discipline
    TDOG Humankind Must Respond to His Gift of Grace By Faith
    TDOTM Messianic Reign In Jerusalem--1,000 Years

    Explanations and inclusions of the dispensations by Dr. Berrian
     
  13. Ray Berrian

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    Joy,

    I checked out your 'Link'. A very good explanation. Thanks!

    Dr. Berrian
     
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