Featured Divorce

You and I have different definitions of deception.

This hasn’t been the definition for as long as anyone have lived. So, if a couple never took advantagef the laws governing “marriage” by calling themselves “married” to the government, I would agree.

However, in my opinion, it is a deceptive form of theft to declare a divorce just to get more money.

Marty

 

" Abstain from all appearance of evil." ( 1 Thessalonians 5:22 )

 

No, I don't think they should. I agree that it does not take a certificate from any government to be married in the eyes of God -- it is a covenant that a man and a woman makes between themselves and before God. Men and women have been doing that since the beginning of time, without the benefit of the government's stamp of approval. But in this case they did not object to the government's approval/requirement, until it became a negative in their eyes (and the eyes of their advisers) -- as it probably true of most all of us (i.e., we submitted to the government marriage certificate). The main rub I see is this: (1) they were married not only in the eyes of God, but also in the eyes of government, and (2) this solution engages in playing not married on the one hand, and married on the other hand.

Perhaps Christians need to rethink the whole concept of "government marriage," but in the meantime it is a bad testimony to accept it when it is beneficial to us, this chunk it when it is not.

Yes, I view it as deceitful. It is telling one group of people you are not married, and telling another group you are. It is "double-minded." On the other hand, I am ambivalent toward whether it is "bilking the government" or whether it is "rightfully theirs". The whole Social Security system is messed up and they are probably getting money someone else is putting in right now. Some have paid in a little and got back a lot; some have paid in a lot and got back a little.

They deserve to get something if they paid in. I have no idea what would be "rightfully theirs." AND, these kinds of things need to be fixed so that people aren't punished for being married.

Are there any Christians and/or churches nearby who can step in an help?

 

They need to get jobs.

 

"But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay..."

Government: "Are you married?"
Christian: "Nay, Nay."

Church: "Are you married?"
Christian: "Yea, yea."

That doesn't sound as if it fits either the letter or spirit of Jesus's exhortation.

 

Baloney. He's a pastor.

 

Seems like a case of the ethics justified by the situation.

 

What's this thing called a "retired pastor"?
I can't seem to find it in Scripture.

 

No, I do not believe they should divorce for money, and if they did I do not believe they would be considered married still in the eyes of God.

Yes, I would view divorcing someone for monetary gain as deceitful. My grandma divorced my grandpa for money long ago, they have been cheating the system for decades, I have told them how wrong and disturbing that is but they don't care.

No, I would not view that as a legal way to receive compensation, that would be not only lying, it would also be them two disobeying God by divorcing, God said He HATES divorce. Also they would not be placing their faith in God, they would be instead making the Government their provider. They need to suck it up so to speak and trust in God.

Those are my thoughts... I have seen it in my life and it's one pet peeve of mine, I just loathe it when people abuse the system.

PS. May I add, no matter what the world says, in the case of saying hey it's okay to get a divorce if you really need the money, we are not to listen to the world. Remember, we are in the world, but we are not to be of the world. Gods Words and teachings on the matter should be ALL that matters, and He said let NO man or woman put away their spouse, period.

 

" For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for [one] covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously." ( Malachi 2:16 )

" Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." ( Matthew 19:6 )

With respect, that is what the Scripture states.

" Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.
3 So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." ( Romans 7:1-3 )

" And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:
11 but and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife." ( 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 )


May God bless you.

 

God hates divorce.

 

My friend's father from Benin (Africa) had two wives and children from them. What should he do with them after conversion?

 

Simply don”t seek to become an elder.

Rob

 

... like all other kinds of sin (incl. James 4:17)