Do You Know Any Charasmatic baptists In Your Church or Friends?

John, you have that history down far better than I do....I am only really studied on the Welsh Methodist Movements in Revivals. They were Calvinistic BTW & very Orthodox. Everything has to be proven through scripture, & babbling in tongues is frowned upon & a flag to phony behavior. More importantly, the HS has total sovereignty over every situation & nobody has healing power rather it can be given in a moment & just as quickly taken away.

I'd like to read that book of your Grandfathers some day but I am totally new to Christianity & I'm overwhelmed with all the material I have to read and digest. right now my bible is my 1st point of reference.

 

I think you're onto something here. I think many Baptists shy away from what I would call free worshipping because it might resemble the excesses we have witnessed among the Charismatics and Pentecostals.

It has been a long time since someone shouted in the middle of a worship service in my church. On occasion I will see hands lifted in the air, but it is the exception rather than the rule.

Yet.....I have also seen the Holy Spirit literally take over a service. I have seen tears, testimonies, singing at a new level of expression; I have seen people saved, lives rededicated, relationships repaired.

But never speaking in tongues; never folks falling out in the aisles (but yes, falling on their knees); and never the wild uncontrolled stuff that that seems to be worked up more than poured out.

 

I wish I was there to have experienced it.....how wonderful that must of been!

 

I wish that you could have been with us 2 weekends ago at a comunion service I attended. It was just as Tom described.

 

"Third Wave" Charismatics are more likely to hold to the real Gospel and less likely to enter other churches to try to change them. They start their own churches. However, the tongues doctrine alone can be very divisive, so I would be very careful about allowing even a Third Wave Charismatic into my church.

 

When I preach on revival I love one illustration about the Welsh Revival. Some reporters went there to learn about it, and asked a policeman, "Where is the Welsh Revival taking place?" He pointed to his heart and replied, "Here!"

If you are not solidly rooted in the Word of God and its teaching about the Holy Spirit and His work, the many viewpoints and conflicting doctrines taught about the Spirit of God can be overwhelming.

 

Don't know of any Charasmatic baptist nor any Charismatic baptists either.

 

This is good advice, John. If one gets into your church, he'll reveal himself in time. There's no way it can't be divisive.

In my post #43 I used the term "worked up instead of poured out." This seems to be the modus operandi of Charismatics. The service begins with hard-driving music, heavy beat, hand-clapping, jumping up and down. In one service I attended, the worship leader cajoled the congregation. "Come on, we've got to get in the Spirit!" But, just like flipping a switch, he turned it off when it came time for the sermon. That, my friends, is a working up, not a pouring out.

From what I've read of the Welsh Revivals, now that was a pouring out.

And when the Holy Spirit takes over your worship, it is precious indeed.

 

Well said. Tongues are all worked up.

Once down in Tokyo I had a tongues speaker from the cultic "Spirit of Jesus Church" try to "evangelize" me to speak in tongues. She said to say "Lord Jesus Christ" in Japanese over and over again for a half hour, and I'd speak in tongues and feel so good. When I took out my NT and asked her to show me that in the Bible, she was completely lost.