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Do you see anything in current events relating to eschatology now?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. Yeshua1

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    Or nothing is confirming the scriptures?
     
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    ...newspaper eschatology, soooo exciting to be living in the last days, I guess....

    What is it, an adrenaline rush?
     
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    OWG - - - One World Government?
    IMHO, the only reason it has not materialized YET is the restraining influence of the "once most powerful" nation in the world - the USofA.
    Based on todays situation I strongly believe that, WITHOUT a direct intervention from God Himself, we will be a carbon copy of every socialist country that ever existed - - - KAPOOT!!!!
    I also firmly believe that even with His intervention, only a few - several years will be added, so the OWG, IMHO, is less than a quarter century away! (Not prophesying, just my gut prediction based on todays politics ;))
     
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    You don't have to be a prophet when the past reveals the future:

    9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Ecc 1

    ...names, places, faces, change but history keeps repeating.
     
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  5. Yeshua1

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    Still awaiting the Second Coming!
     
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    Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

    Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

    I did and I have and have never got on that Dispy Train... WRECK!... Thank GOD!... Brother Glen:)
     
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    I see that as yet future.
    Matthew 24:28, "For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together."
    Revelation 19:21, "And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh."
     
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    So who is the Man of Sion Jesus will slay at His second coming?
     
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    Reformed Baptist theologian & historian Tom Chantry knows:

    Tom Chantry: Pope Francis Is The Antichrist

    "Our confession summarizes the case against the Pope...he is the Antichrist...."the Pope of Rome..is that Antichrist...whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming." Second London Confession of Faith, Chapter XXVI, Paragraph 4....Pope Francis is the Antichrist."
     
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    See what happens when you don't quote scripture?... You have the Lord slaying himself?:eek:... The Man of Sion IS the Lord Jesus Christ!... So easy to quote scripture... You just copy and paste... Brother Glen:)

    1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

    Taken from Isaiah

    Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
     
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    Yeshua1ese to English translation:

    "Man of Sion" > "Man of Sin"

    Yeshua1's "1689 Confession" pinpoints the Pope of Rome as "that Man of sin, and Son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God; whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming."

    they find that in 2 Thessalonians 2
     
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    Meant man of Sin!
     
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    I hold to that being the end times Antichrist, but not as being a Pope!
     
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    Not even rumors at the moment, much less news.
     
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    So? What? Absolutely nothing new about that:

    Who did early Protestant reformers say the Antichrist was? (bibleask.org)

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    Martin Luther (1483-1546) (Lutheran):
    “Luther … proved, by the revelations of Daniel and St. John, by the epistles of St. Paul, St. Peter, and St. Jude, that the reign of Antichrist, predicted and described in the Bible, was the Papacy … And all the people did say, Amen! A holy terror siezed their souls. It was Antichrist whom they beheld seated on the pontifical throne. This new idea, which derived greater strength from the prophetic descriptions launched forth by Luther into the midst of his contemporaries, inflicted the most terrible blow on Rome.” Taken from J. H. Merle D’aubigne’s History of the Reformation of the Sixteen Century , book vi, chapter xii, p. 215.

    Martin Luther declared, “We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist.” (Aug. 18, 1520). Taken from The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, by LeRoy Froom. Vol. 2., pg. 121.

    John Calvin (1509-1564) (Presbyterian):
    “Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself, after whom we speak and whose language we adopt… I shall briefly show that (Paul’s words in II Thess. 2) are not capable of any other interpretation than that which applies them to the Papacy.” Taken from Institutes of the Christian Religion, by John Calvin.

    John Knox (1505-1572) (Scotch Presbyterian):
    John Knox sought to counteract “that tyranny which the pope himself has for so many ages exercised over the church.” As with Luther, he finally concluded that the Papacy was “the very antichrist, and son of perdition, of whom Paul speaks.” The Zurich Letters , by John Knox, pg. 199.

    Thomas Cranmer (1489-1556) (Anglican):
    “Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of antichrist, and the pope to be very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures, old writers, and strong reasons.” (Referring to prophecies in Revelation and Daniel.) Works by Cranmer, Vol. 1, pp. 6-7.

    Roger Williams (1603-1683) (First Baptist Pastor in America):
    Pastor Williams spoke of the Pope as “the pretended Vicar of Christ on earth, who sits as God over the Temple of God, exalting himself not only above all that is called God, but over the souls and consciences of all his vassals, yea over the Spirit of Christ, over the Holy Spirit, yea, and God himself…speaking against the God of heaven, thinking to change times and laws; but he is the son of perdition (II Thess. 2).” The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, by Froom, Vol. 3, pg. 52.

    The Westminster Confession of Faith (1647):
    “There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition that exalteth himself in the church against Christ and all that is called God.” Taken from Philip Schaff’s, The Creeds of Christendom, With a History and Critical Notes , III, p. 658, 659, ch. 25, sec. 6.

    Cotton Mather (1663-1728) (Congregational Theologian):
    “The oracles of God foretold the rising of an Antichrist in the Christian Church: and in the Pope of Rome, all the characteristics of that Antichrist are so marvelously answered that if any who read the Scriptures do not see it, there is a marvelous blindness upon them.” Taken from The Fall of Babylon by Cotton Mather in Froom’s book, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Vol. 3, pg. 113.

    John Wesley (1703-1791) (Methodist):
    Speaking of the Papacy, John Wesley wrote, “He is in an emphatical sense, the Man of Sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers… He it is…that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped…claiming the highest power, and highest honour…claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone.” Antichrist and His Ten Kingdoms, by John Wesley, pg. 110.

    A Great Cloud of Witnesses:
    “Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther, Calvin, Cranmer; in the seventeenth century, Bunyan, the translators of the King James Bible and the men who published the Westminster and Baptist confessions of Faith; Sir Isaac Newton, Wesley, Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards; and more recently Spurgeon, Bishop J.C. Ryle and Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones; these men among countless others, all saw the office of the Papacy as the antichrist.” Taken from All Roads Lead to Rome, by Michael de Semlyen. Dorchestor House Publications, p. 205. 1991.

    In His service,
    BibleAsk Team
     
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    So does it really mean that one world government is really possible? Was this written in the bible, sorry I must have just forgot.
     
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