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Doctorates, anyone?

Discussion in 'Baptist Colleges & Seminaries' started by SaggyWoman, Dec 25, 2002.

  1. SaggyWoman

    SaggyWoman Active Member

    Dec 15, 2000
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    Does anyone have a doctorate?

    Why did you get one?

    If you are in the ministry, why would you get one?
  2. Jim1999

    Jim1999 <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Aug 10, 2002
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    A doctoral degree (earned) is essential for teaching in a university in Canada.

    These days, however, it is common to see pastors of small churches with doctoral degrees. The discipline of learning is one reason for obtaining a doctorate.....or any other degree for that matter. Some denominations require a minimum of a masters for ordination.

    Some of the best teachers I sat under had no theological degrees and only honourary doctorates,,,,DD's....devil disturbers. Then, that was another time....I started out in ministry with an architectural diploma and two years in a Baptist Bible College.


  3. Rev. Joshua

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    Aug 7, 2001
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    Saggy, are you talking about a research doctorate (Ph.D., Th.D.) or a professional doctorate (D.Min.).

    Since I'm an academic, I went into seminary with a Ph.D. as my goal. I've always enjoyed in-depth research and the classroom environment, so a Ph.D. and university/seminary teaching always seemed like a good fit. The birth of my son meant taking a break from graduate work, but I'm hoping to get back on that horse in a few months (when he starts Kindergarten :eek: ). Ideally, if/when I finish the Ph.D. I'll teach full time and pastor churches that could not otherwise afford a pastor.

    In my experience, clergy pursue research doctorates for any combination of the following reasons:

    • they are academic types and really enjoy research and study at that level</font>
    • they plan to teach in a seminary or university</font>
    • they don't know what they want to do, and a free degree with a stipend and student loan deferrment is too good to pass up</font>
    • the congregations whom they would someday like to serve will only consider people with doctorates, and the research degree is a better fit for their interests than a professional degree</font>
    People generally do professional doctorates because:
    • They have a practical area of ministry where they would like to do advanced research</font>
    • It is necessary for their career progression</font>
    Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?

    [ December 27, 2002, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: Rev. Joshua ]
  4. atestring

    atestring New Member

    May 3, 2001
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    I have a DDS
    that stands for door to door salesman
  5. Bartimaeus

    Bartimaeus New Member

    Feb 12, 2002
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    If I ever sign my name with D.D. behind it.....mark it down.......I've done hours and hours of research.....in special darkened places where others fear to tread......coming out with jewels and delequacies (sp) fit for only the deep to consume....(I know there's a joke here somewhere) it means Dumpster Diver. HA!!!!!

    Some DD's I've come into contact with dove in deep and came up smelling and raunchy.

    Thanks ------Bart

    [ January 19, 2003, 09:27 PM: Message edited by: Bartimaeus ]
  6. Pete

    Pete New Member

    Aug 31, 2002
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    I am a T.D.

    Taxi Driver [​IMG]

    (Emphasis mine [​IMG] :D )

    Pete, T.D.
  7. rufus

    rufus New Member

    Jan 20, 2003
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    I have a Phd in Biblical Counseling and a Thd in Theology.

    The counseling degree was to help me in the pastoral ministry.

    The Theology degree was to help me in research, preaching and teaching.

    Rufus [​IMG]
  8. TomVols

    TomVols New Member

    Oct 30, 2000
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    I look forward to doctoral work, as I've dipped a toe in both strands (research and professional). I'd prefer to do Ph.D., but will do D.Min. I want to be as best equipped for Kingdom Work as I can be.
  9. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator

    Jun 30, 2000
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    While having college and seminary training, I found myself WOEFULLY UNPREPARED for two modern aspects of the ministry. One was in counseling, with multiplied problems showing up in greater quantities every year of my ministry. The other was in education, with the abundance of chrisitan private school, was non-existent in my training.

    So I went through Liberty to the Pastoral Counseling program under Jay Adams. Resident work for two weeks, then work through my existing ministry. Really helped.

    And into a D.Min program through Trinity for both counseling and education training (along with returning to UW for another undergrad degree, too) and a resident program in Dallas at Calvary College for an Ed.D. program.

    Haven't done much since 96 on my Ph.D. May just let it drop as the program is not recognized and don't want to go through all that work (and a THIRD doctoral dissertation) for no recognition!