Does a vote really mean 100% support?

Nope. We live in a federal constitutional republic, we elect people who best represent our viewpoint and they vote according to their positions. Just because President Bush favors a bogus pre-emptive war (a position I am deeply troubled by) and since I voted for him (even though I want to take it back) my vote was to install him in office and doesn't mean I support all of his vantage points.

Yeah, evangelicals are in a very bad place right now. They have to choose between two pro-choice, big government people. Of course there is another option(s)...

I'm actually going to vote 3rd party this election. The way my home convention has been beholden to the Republican party makes me sick. Of course I think Senator Obama (as nice a person as I am sure he is) would be a drastic step in the wrong direction.

On this issue opinions are like body parts...everybody has lots...

 

If knowing the issue that you care most about defeating is going to be firmly ensconced for generations if a certain candidate is elected and then you vote for him, you are part of the problem. Even if that candidate has other favorable issues that you like. With a 70% Dem Congress and a Dem POTUS the judges that legislate from the bench will be forever there. Good bye to the family unit as we know it and hello to the abortion mill just around the corner.

 

YOu couldn't be more wrong. When govt fails to protect the innocent and protects the murderer God will judge it. Legislation is needed to protect life against those that seek to kill it and then takes my honest hard earned money to pay for it. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!! The only way it will stop it short of a blood letting civil war, is by elections. Our nation had 87 years to protect those that had no voice and failed to do so. It led to the bloodiest war that this nation ever had. We have had nearly 40 years of legal abortions sense R v W. Time is running out for us to reascend this evil before God visits our sin upon us.

Meanwhile you and I had better be about God's business getting the gospel out so Christ can change hearts.

Now stop being an appeaser and help us put a stop to this massive murder of children.

 

This kind of rhetoric was present before (and during) the first Clinton presidency. Yet, we are still here. My family is still intact.

Politics never solves anything. To change the world begins when we encounter people with the Gospel not legislation.

 

And you are right, abortion will not stop. However using my money to fund those murders will. If a person wants an abortion then let them fund it with their own blood money.

Every candidate that has run with a pro life platform has also ran for the protection of the 2nd amendment, limited government, lower taxes and for a marriage amendment. So when I vote for that pro life candidate I am also voting for all the other issues that I favor.

 

Not being snarky, but who are these candidates? I certainly don't know of one from either major party in the past 16 years. Who is running this time that meets these qualifications?

 

Again I agree. :thumbs:

 

I know exactly what you are asking. It is encouraging that our present President has at least appointed fairly competent judges and many are being held up by Congress sense '06.

Personally I have not made up my mind yet as to who to vote for. I will wait until the conventions have announced their platforms before I get behind anybody. I do know who I am not voting for.

 

Especially sense there's hardly a dime's worth of difference between the 2. :BangHead:

 

While it is true that it is difficult for a pro life president to stop abortions, it is equally true that it is easy for a pro choice president to press for more liberal abortion laws.

Either way, whether they can actually change it or not, the fact that one side wants to make abortion more available to more people and even pay for it with government funds, should be enough for any moral christian to oppose them.

I am sick of so-called christians making excuses for supporting pro abortion and pro gay candidates. There is no excuse for supporting evil.

And I know.....some say that the war in Iraq is evil. The war is strictly opinion with no biblical proof one way or the other......whereas abortion(murder) and homosexuality are addressed in the Bible and deemed as evil.

AJ

 

I am pointing out christians who support abortion and gay rights.....if the shoe fits, then wear it.

And Obama is not "moderately" pro choice...he is completely pro abortion.

I beleive the moral issues will affect our country and culture, and God's Kingdom for far longer than the war in Iraq will.

I would gladly fight a war to stop abortion and gay rights. I would be the first to enlist.

AJ

 

And so much so that he supports legislation that will allow a failed aborted baby die on the table while offering no assistance. I could never vote for this man for any reason under the sun. :tear: