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Does Ephesians 1:3 Support us Seeking baptism In the Holy Ghost today?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Yeshua1, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    English Standard Version (©2001)
    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)
    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,



    seems that whichever Bibvle used, that ALL of us already have all spiritual blessings, so why need the "baptism?"
     
  2. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    I read Wesley's life-story and found "the 'baptism'" is sheer pride in self-justification. It's a big bluff, noisy and off-showing. But fruitless like the cursed fig tree. I loath it.
     
  3. Yeshua1

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    Strange, as that second act of blessing of Grace was to allow one to obtain 'sinless perfection"
     
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    No.....................................
     
  5. Thomas Helwys

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    No one has to seek the baptism of the HS. Everyone is baptized by the HS upon believing or coming to faith in Christ.
     
  6. Yeshua1

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    That is why I keep asking Awaken to give us JUST a verse showing that we are to seek after that further 'Blessing!"
     
  7. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Strange?! Precisely because "to obtain 'sinless perfection"" is that BIG BLUFF!
     
  8. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    It might seem trivial, but right here is the crux : Everyone believing or coming to faith in Christ IS baptized by the Holy Spirit. Not, "upon"!

     
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    About your signature-line, >The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates. ~Tacitus< ... isn't it more about the state of man than 'the state'? I liked it!
     
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