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Does God Honor marriages between Either the Unsaved, or Saved/Unsaved?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by DaChaser1, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. DaChaser1

    DaChaser1 New Member

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    only gave you what the Bible teaches...

    was the Bible "made up?"
     
  2. jbh28

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    Does God "honor" anything an unsaved person does?
     
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    freeatlast New Member

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    Your bible is made up by you. THEE bible does nto teach what you says.
     
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    Absolutely nothing and that is the point ins't it.
     
  5. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
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    Oh so my wife & I were not really married & our kids arent really important in God's eyes?!?
     
  6. freeatlast

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    You need to take that up wiht God. I did not set the standards, He did.
     
  7. jbh28

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    So, are you actually saying that a marriage isn't a real marriage if the people were unsaved at the time of the marriage?
     
  8. freeatlast

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    I am not saying anything. You have the scripture believe what is written. It is clear that there is a difference between two lost people who marry and where there is at least one who is saved in a marriage. They, the two lost people, are not sanctified and their children are unclean.

    For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
     
  9. Earth Wind and Fire

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    I see no difference in your message than I did with the Hyper Calvinists. So your just the delivery boy to a cruel message. Fortunately I see a God thats bigger than the one seen by the narrow minded & I glorify in one who has saved me despite your view......could it be that in your own rush to salvation, you've missed something?

    See, Ive done everything wrong but have been forgiven & made new. Perhaps its mercy? No I resolve that it is Mercy......infinite in scope! How can one who claims salvation not see that in the true character of God? Shakes head.
     
  10. glfredrick

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    Being lost or not has no bearing on the state of marraige, which is -- whether or not the persons getting married wish to admit it or believe it -- a covenant relationship with God to become one flesh for life.

    The marriage will be "difficult" if one is unequally yoked -- a believer to an unbeliever -- and that difficulty may run to the point where the believer is hindered from his or her walk with God. It does not, however, stop the one flesh relationship via God's covenant.
     
  11. Amy.G

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    Precisely. Marriage is holy. Unbelievers cannot make it unholy any more than they can make God unholy by using His name in vain.
     
  12. freeatlast

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    The scripture disagrees with you.
    For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
     
  13. Amy.G

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    Does the children being holy mean they are saved?
     
  14. freeatlast

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    I assume you do not understand how to get saved if you need to ask that.
    First the bible says all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God. That means everyone is lost.
    Second since we have already sinned there is nothing we can do to fix the wrong. Good does not fix evil it only takes care of itself. That means we are not able to get right with God on our own. So God in His mercy has made a way for our sin to be paid for in full. What He did was send His Son the Lord Jesus Christ and put our sin on Him. Now anyone who is willing to turn to God and place their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ they will be saved. The first command we have after salvation is to be Baptized. This is the only way anyone can be saved.
    After our salvation we are called to live our lives in a manner that is honoring to the Lord who bought us.
     
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    How bout if both are unbelievers?

    also define unbeliever.

    What if your chosen to be one of the elect since before the firmament of time but were not regenerated when you were 1st married?

    What if you thought you were a believer then later it was proven to you that you were not? Are you married then?

    If both people in the marriage were married in a Church...does that count?

    What about catholics....Does God consider them married?

    Are non christians like Hindu's & Buddists not considered married?

    Are jews considered married? Was Mary & Joseph considered married & if not what are the implications?

    What if one was RC & one was a Dutch Reformed .....both infant baptised but not dunked?
     
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    Yes, I know how to be saved. But you seem to think there is something different about children of the unsaved compared to children of the saved. What do you think it means for the children to be holy? How do you interpret that? You keep repeating the verse, but have yet to explain it.

    I believe it means they are set apart (holy) because they will receive the benefits and blessings of God because they have a saved parent who will teach them the things of God.
     
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    An unbeliever is a person who has not been born again. As to being elect, it depends on if the person accepts the call to be elect. Every marriage is a marriage. It is that just not all married people are sanctified in the marriage. Two lost people who are married have children who are unclean.
    Here is what scripture says. There is no exceptions or ways around it.

    For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
     
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    No you are incorrect. I don't think anything. I know that when two lost people marry and have children they have children that are unclean, but if just one in the marriage is saved then the children are not unclean.

    For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

    Scripture does not spell out what exactly it means for them to be unclean or holy, but it is clear that they are not the same as those born to two lost people.
     
  19. Amy.G

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    No scripture doesn't spell it out. That's why you should not be so dogmatic about it and proclaim that all children born to the unsaved are UNCLEAN. And the words clean and unclean are not even NT language, they are OT words. So it is not as cut and dried as you're trying to make it. You can't even tell us what a modern day application of "unclean" is. :rolleyes:
     
  20. freeatlast

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    Like I said I know because scripture states it. You can reject scripture if you want but I choose to believe it. All children where there are two unbelievers are unclean based on 1Cor 7.
     
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