Does God make mistakes these days?

I don't want to make this a lengthy debate, but want to know how you interpret this type of disaster which may be called Acts of God.

Moreover, my heart goes to those families of the victims.

Among the 450 dead, more than 60 were from this single Catholic church in Peru because of the Quake.

Some years ago, a Catholic church along with the statue of Mary in New Brunswick was hit by the Lightening and the 119 year old, Catholic church was burnt down.

Why does it happen to the Holy Catholic Church? Did God make some error in hiting the targets?

How do the Catholic or Pro-Catholics interpret this situation?

Do those Catholic Churches have nothing to do with the God who has the power to control the Lightening, Quake, and Tsunami etc?

Of course, this type of disasters may happen to the Protestant churches, though it may be much seldom in frequency.

How would you interpret and accept this kind of situation?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/17/world/americas/17peru.html?th&emc=th

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/08/17/peru.earthquake/index.html


Did they have the right faith? Can this kind of Disaster happen to you and to any of true believers?


God is terrible indeed, right? ( Psalm 47:2)

 

Sigh to read your post. God never makes mistakes. There is always the providence of God, and there is the message from God. If you don't realize it, you are spiritually blind. I hope you are not the hostage there by the Catholics. Cathrina struck the region of Gambling, Catholic dominated area.

So, are you admitting that even this happened to praise God ? Then it means the destruction of the idolatry shrine of Catholic is for the praise of God, right?

As for the tragedy itself, we need to comfort the residents there, but my point was about the shrine of the Idol worshippers, Catholic Cathedral where the people gathered together for the Mass! Why didn't God postpone the timing ?

Doesn't any reasonable believer think how it could happen to the Mass of their Holy Catholic church?

Earthquake is absolutely divine act. No one can be guilty about it. God never makes mistakes. No disaster like that in the world can happen without the involvement of God. If Catholic claims that they are truly God's people, how can they explain this incident where the Quake struck exactly the people at the Mass? The city may have more than 100,000 but among the dead, mainly the Catholic people in the Mass were killed.
If the Holy Papa is the agent of Christ, the Almighty God, who is omni-scient, omni-present, omni-potent, why didn't he know about the Quake in advance and notify the Cathedral in advance?

I wonder what kind of truth you are preaching there.

 

You and Andy must distinguish between Human Disaster and ACts of God.

If anyone, any human being, selected any specific day or any specific target, then we cannot imagine any linkage between the disaster and God.

For example, if any terrorist attacked Catholic Cathedral and killed many people there due to his hatred, then we cannot and should not link the problem with God. Such criminal must be condemned. However, in this case, should God be condemned ?

They are totally different.

 

Though he was converted from Episcopalian to Methodist following his wife, he is basically grown up in Episcopalian which is a Catholic.

COE was invented by Henry VIII so that he may divorce and remarry, but the doctrines of COE is not very much different from RCC except the headship of Pope. Episcopalian is the US version of COE and they call themselves as Catholic.

That's why he is full of Catholic minds when he said " we go on the Crusade into Afghanistan" in 2001, and when he said in London " we worship the same God, among Islam, Christian, etc. why do we fight each other?" then he appointed 2 Catholics to the Supreme Court Judges.

In his mind, Catholics, COE, Orthodox, Episcopalian, Presbyterian are the same Christians, but he may think that the fundamental Baptists or Brethren are the cults.

This is how you can understand his mentality.

 

G Bush

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_bush_in_church.htm


Episcopal Church:

http://ecusa.anglican.org/67563_ENG_HTM.htm?menupage=59956

Is this close to Protestants ?



Do the Protestant churches have dioceses, priests, bishops?

http://ecusa.anglican.org/67608_ENG_HTM.htm?menupage=59957

 

Indeed, we sometimes do not know what the intention of God is.
But have you read that Jesus said this?

Luke 13:3
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish

Do you preach the Repentance like Him?

I was not indicating the whole community, but as you can see, 60 out
of 500 victims were from the single Catholic Cathederal. That is totally different from Job's trial. Did Job die immediately?
How is the difference betwen this case and Sodom and Gomorrah?
Was Abraham injured or hurt during the Catastrophe?

Where did I say that God makes mistakes?

You are creating the confusions and false statements!
Show Me the statements!

I doubt about your capacity to understand the English sentences.

God never makes mistakes !

The God who never makes mistakes struck the Holy Catholic Church building. Don't they get the message?
Don't you like to preach the Repentance as Jesus did ?

Let's say the average people and/or the overall catastrophes are related to complicated human disaster, but what I pointed out was the very Cathedral where the people were performing the Mass.
Still, don't you get the message of Repentance ?

Traffic Accidents are different from the Acts of God. They are human disasters caused by many factors and the innocent believers can become the victims of the drunken drivers. I never addressed that kind of accidents to point out the problems with any religion.
In case of Tornado, the victims may have lost the property. In that case it applies to Job's trial. If the person died due to the Acts of God, then it would apply to the same question. Even in such case, it is a matter of Repentance.

I would kindly advise you to read all the statements carefully, rather than responding to them irrationally and hastely.
Where did I say I doubt about your salvation?
I wondered what kind of truth you are preaching !
I asked such questions because I noticed many are wasting their time preaching the wrong doctrines even though they are truly saved.

Are you preaching the Gospel and the Repentance from the Idolatry there?

I do have 2 friends preaching the Gospel in Catholic countries, one in Argentine and the other in Ireland. They deplore idolatry and vain deception by the Catholics even though they don't condemn them publicly. They share the same opinion with me and I have had no problem in talking with them at all. They don't condone the idolatry there.
Are you preaching the Gospel like this man ?

Acts 17
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Very Good. Hope you notice Catholics believe in the Grace+ Works.

Are you trying to survive in the Catholic countries by assimilating yourself with them, or are you trying to be "the Salt and Light " there?
Of course I am not asking you to fight the fleshly fight publicly, but if you are boldy preaching the Gospel of truth and discern the problems of the Catholic idolatry, you wouldn't have argued about my post.

Yes, indeed I wish everyone including Catholics truly comes to the Lord, departing the Idolatry and repenting all the sins. Condoning the Idolatry and the goddess worship is not the love that God taught me. I am not asking you to fight the foolish fight but believe you have to be wise in all matters, as condoning them is not right.

 

Where were the True Christian killed by the Acts of God?

Were there any true Christians when Pompei was covered by Volcano?

Then you are denying the divine protection as shown to Lot during the Catastrphe to Sodom and Gomorrah.

I trust that God would not allow such divine accidents to the truly repented believers.

I have never heard about any True believers killed by the natural disasters, so-called Acts of God.

 

[FONT=&#44404]As long as the person believeth in Jesus and is born again truly by Holy Spirit, then follow the Holy Spirit, he or she will not be struck by the Acts of God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&#44404]Read the following verses:[/FONT]

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


[FONT=&#44404]Can you believe these words of God?[/FONT]


[FONT=&#44404]Matthew 10:[/FONT]

29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

Luke 12: 6
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God? 7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows

Luke 21

18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. ( Bible verses are from crosswalk.com)

All disasters are related to the sins, and even in the case of Job, eventually he repented about his sins in sack clothes on the ashes.( JOb 42:6)

Are the people in the country of more than 90% Holy Catholic repenting about their sins? Or are they looting ?

Are the churches preach the repentance on this occasion?

But please remember this, it is not common that the whole members of any so-called church are killed by the Acts of God. Have this kind of natural tragedy often happened to the Roman Catholic churches in the past? Then it is horrible reliegion !

Isn't it a very much unusual accident ?




Even an individual who is faithful, even if he or she belongs to the same church group, would have been guided by the Holy Spirit, not to attend the Mass on that specific day, either due to illness or due to some other business, as Lot and his family were singled out to be brought out of Sodom and Gomorrah.

I trust in God.