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Does God Save Children Apart From their Faith In Jesus?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Aug 24, 2011.

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  1. Aaron

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    No. In webdog's understanding, all are born worthy of heaven. That's what he's saying. Infants that die don't need a savior.
     
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    But when you try to pin him down he waffles just like the rest of the Aunt Jemima Brigade.
     
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    Lord, have mercy.
     
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    Christ reckons the righteous by faith from Abel, not Adam. Adam and Eve were and are not saved.
     
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    And your name is ____G O D????
     
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    I'm going to have to go the route Skan did and tell you to stop quoting me. Never even hinted as such...but I'm sure you already knew that as this kind of behavior (trolling) is your MO.
     
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    first I've ever heard this "view". What a load!
     
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    And you would know this how?
     
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    Please continue the full statement. ..."on me."

    Yes, he has mercy on infants. David fell upon the mercy of God.
     
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    Webdog...

    Well, I havent read what Jim has posted, but as for me...it of course will be faith. But faith come come through almost any avenue imaginable.

    God is extremely creative.
     
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    Paul...

    And whats wrong with that?

    As I understand it its not heretical at all.
     
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    You do indeed go his route saying one thing then denying its implication.

    In other words, we're born alive.

    So we're all born worthy of heaven. That's how you say infants who die go to heaven without faith.

    You can deny it all you want, that is what you're saying.
     
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    I just have His Word on it.
     
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    That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Matt. 23:35

    By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. Heb. 11:4
     
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    Not at all...you just won't get it right.
    What a concept considering death is the ending of life! We who were dead in OUR trespasses and sins that WE used to walk...when sin sprang to life I died...and sin when it is full grown gives birth to death...etc, etc.
    Has nothing to do with worth...that's what YOU said, not I. Those who are found not guilty go to Heaven. Worth plays no role in justice.
     
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    Actually Scripture states there's one way, one avenue.

    Faith comes by hearing (understanding, not audible hearing), and that by the Word of God.
     
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    You say toMAYto; I say toMAHto.

    If one is not in need of a savior, he is worthy.
     
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    I believe denying sola fide to be the "h" word, or as I have been told to call it...unbiblical :)
     
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    ...proving you have no dog in this fight as you do not understand justice or the need to be freed from the curse of sin.
     
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    You are saying that some are getting into heaven by some means other than the work of Christ. I don't care to quibble over the details of that heresy.
     
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