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Does my vote count?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Amy.G, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Amy.G

    Amy.G New Member

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    Could someone please explain to me the electoral votes? Does our personal vote even count?
     
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    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Yes, your vote does count, but only in determining which candidate wins the electoral vote for your state. Each state has a number of votes, there are 538 total electoral votes. If a candidate gets 270 of those votes, he or she is elected president.
     
  3. donnA

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    We've seen it not work that way too haven't we. The person with popular vote does not always win electorial vote. Which does mean no ones vote counted. Or as we saw with the primary, some were bullied into casting their votes one way or another(saw testimony of it). Although this voting may be called soemthng else, it does mean the same, those electorial votes can be bullied into voting a particular way.
     
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    The votes did not, but only in determing the electoral votes for their state. No American has ever voted for a president, but that certainly does not mean that their votes are not important.

    Each state must decide how to allocate electoral votes. Most have a winner talk all system where even if a cadidate wins by one all of the electoral votes go to that candidate.

    I think a couple of states have proportional voting.
     
  5. billwald

    billwald New Member

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    If not for the electoral college system this country would be governed by NYC, Chicago, LA, and Dallas-Ft Worth. No presidential candidate would give a rat about Wyoming, N&S Dak, Montana, Utah . . . or any state with a population less than 10 million.
     
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    Your vote counts twice if you live in some parts of the country!:laugh:
     
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    Or if you were recruited by Obama's Acorn
     
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    Amy, if you go to presidentelect.org, there is a wealth of information on past Presidential elections, from Washington forward. Each 4 year election has an electoral map. You will see how sometimes electors from states do not follow the popular vote. For example, in the 1976 election, Washington state voted for Gerald Ford, and the electors should have gone to him. However, one elector cast his vote for Ronald Reagan.

    Some states have laws preventing this, some do not. Also, two states do not give the winner take all votes to the electors. Maine and Nebraska award electoral votes by Congressional district. Usually it ends up going to the same person anyhow.

    A state could at any time pass a law using new standards as to how to award the electoral votes. There was a proposal in California last year to award its electoral votes based on the proportion of the national vote. It never got anywhere. Look at 1960 and 1948 to see the same pattern. Also, note that in 1968, a third party took a good chunk of electoral votes. In 1860, a third party won the Presidency.

    http://presidentelect.org/e1976.html
     
  9. JustChristian

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    That's true. Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 but lost the election on the scam in Florida.
     
  10. Dragoon68

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    Baloney! Bush won far and square by the Constitutional process in place for Presidential elections.
     
  11. Dragoon68

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    Yes! We chose the delegates by our individual votes. The system was not designed to elect the President by direct popular vote.
     
  12. saturneptune

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    That is alright. It makes the score even from Kennedy stealing the 1960 election from Nixon by voting scams in Illinois and Texas.
     
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