Does Satan support a political party?

ON the nominees, I will agree, but what else have they done to stand up for what they believe in? How much control do they really need to be able to show you what they stand for vers talk about what they stand for?

Both parties like abortion... The Democrats think it's a woman's right to choose and the Republicans like it because it's an "issue" that keep people voting for them.

Both parties need they butts kicked around so much that they won't take the people for granted... sadly, we will never see that because there are so many people with blinders on.

 

Then your belief system is badly flawed in that area.

 

Anyone can pray in any building at any time.

 

Agreed. The Log Cabin Republicans comes to mind.

Anyway, I didn't vote Republican last time (CP is what I voted) but this time, I am voting for the McCain-Palin ticket rather than a 3rd party, because I believe they are pro-life. I even voted for Hillary in the primary because I didn't want Obama to win the primary. But when it comes down to the nitty gritty, I will vote my conscience according to Biblical standards, not the rhetoric and not the pocketbook.

 

What counts is the platform? Why has God's Own Party not enacted their pro-life plank?

 

Then, if you really believe that, then we should be supporting more "Leiberman's" (Independents) and get some results... Get enough Independents in Congress and the other two parties don't matter so much....

With all the Smoke and Mirror's the Republican party gives us, and all the trash the Democratic party gives us, I am surprised to not see more talk of supporting Independents on this board...

It's more than the parties... the parties are only what we elect... if we stop voting for them and let them know why wanna bet they will change for the better? Until then... it's our own fault.

 

If more people did that we will see more Independents in Congress and we would see more (positive) change than either of the other two parties will ever give us.

 

The last successful 3rd party movement (unless you count Perot running just to pull enough GOP votes to elect Clinton), was the Republican Party. Before it became fully successful, however, one of the parties (the Whigs) had to die, and the other one (Democrats) was split four ways by the gather storm of the Civil War.

 

You are right.

 

They did, Roger. I posted it previously:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/31/america/31abortion.php

 

Then you are violating your own standards by voting for the Republican presidential candidate. By your own standards only a Constitution Party candidate would be acceptable. They actually mean what their party platform states.

 

I understand the "body count" and further do not argue that innocents have died by the thousands. BUT none of these reports say that these innocents were killed by AMERICANS. These reports inlude those killed by suicide bombers, are you suggesting that we are activly involved in suicide bombing?

These numbers also include civilians that have picked up weapons against us, but yet are not in any type of military.

I respect your right to have your opinion of the war. Even though we disagree.

What I do not respect is your accusation that the Men and Women in the uniform of my country, a uniform I was proud to wear myself are over seas murdering tens of thousands of innocents, WITH OUT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE.

Give us proof that Americans are killing tens of thousands of "innocent" civilians anywhere. I will let you put all the hot spots together and if I was a betting man I would bet you would not come up with "tens of thousands"

 

I've seen estimates of from 90,000 to 1.5 M Iraqi civilians have died in the war. In wars civilians can be killed by both sides. I would never say that all of them were killed by US troops.

 

I have seen the same, and my heart hurts knowing that folks are dying without a saving knowledge of Jesus.

My point is that some are suggesting that these thousands are being killed by Americans. That, I believe is a complete falsehood.

 

The other point is that Roe vs. Wade was decided by a Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees (6 Republicans and 3 Democrats). Supporting the decision were 5 Republicans and 2 Democrats. Against were 1 Republican and 1 Democrat.

In a very real sense, Republicans are responsible for legalization of abortion in the first place.

 

But those were old fashioned liberal/moderate Republicans. Conservatives were still viable in the Democrats in those days, illustrating the Democratic dissenter.

And, the cultural issues that consume us now were unknown then--I doubt if any of those GOP justices understood the tiger they were unleashing.

And, you never know what a nominee will do. Bush I was sold a bill of goods on Justice Suiter, and Kennedy and O'Connor fooled Reagan.

The difference with modern Democratic judges is and will be that they are all radical.