Does the God you serve repent?

I'm sorry about this one, stanleyg! (However that does not*mean that I repent*, here! ) But I cannot completely or totally* agree with you on this one. Over 30 times in the OT either the LORD or God is said to repent or not repent. Compare that with only one person in the OT is ever* said, as an individual, to repent, and that is Job. And in fact, you actually quoted Gen. 6:6 to the effect that "...it repented the LORD...". And then you cite Num. 23:19 where something else is said, that might be seen at a glance, as contradictory.

Perhaps the real problem*is that we need to re-think the common usage of the word 'repent', with*a more Biblical, and a less theological meaning, in the usage, and get away from the usual idea that 'repent' has to do with sin or sins*, per se.

Ed

P.S. I attempted to show that others can embellish*text, as well. :tongue3:

"*" means I hit a different color, some way or other, as opposed to 'blue'

 

PHP:

The serpent gave Eve his version of the truth that ye shall not surely die.

Actually, I think the serpent gave Eve his version of a lie

 

Well, first off, I am not participating in the exercise of embellishing and underlining words again, unless I have a good reason, but merely did that before for effect.
Second, I did not mention Noah, at all.
Third, I don't believe I even gave a definition of repent in the first place, so how could I change it, here. However, I will give one shortly.
Now to the particulars. You wrote:

In the first place, I am, for myself, as one living in the dispensation of the grace of God (Eph. 3:2), defining "repent" as to its most common NT usage, namely to change one's mind, hence I said that although 'I was sorry about disagreeing with your POV, I did not repent, here.
However as to Gen. 6:5-8, the Scripture says:

So I didn't say it, the LORD did. I guess a case could be made, in one sense, that via the person and family of Noah, the LORD "returned to the drawing board", but it had nothing to do with God not forseeing the outcome, but rather man not forseeing the outcome of evil. Nor does it in any way "connotate" that "the Lord made a mistake" as you suggested I am saying, which again, I did not.

BTW, the word translated "repent", in the OT, the Hebrew 'nacham' is usually rendered by the NKJV as "relent", which I happen to prefer over the KJV "repent", when referring to God, and that word has to do both with a change of mind and a sense of sorrow. No, as you mentioned, and as Num. 23:19 tells us, God doesn't change His mind, from His perspective, but he does from ours, as His ways are not our ways. However Scripture also tells us that God is and can be grieved, another usage of repent, and the one I see in view, here in Gen. 6:6.

Amen. Let us make sure that His word is what we are saying, for He says, in His Word

I dunno'! Sounds pretty stiff to me! Also sounds full of grace, as well.

Ed

 

I agree! And welcome to the BB. :wavey: Hope you hagve your flak-jacket and hardhat handy!:BangHead: :laugh: :laugh:
Ed

 

The correct pont is that Eve listened to the Serpent. And we do not actually know, since it is not stated, whether or not the Serpent even conversed with Adam, at all. But God had told Adam that "In the day you eat of this tree of the knowledge of good and evil, dying, you will die." And that is exactly what happened- they died on the spot, spiritually. and began the longer process of dying physically.

Ed

P.S. Since I hadn't already said this, Welcome to the BB, as well. G'nite, all.

 

This is why cult mentality is so damaging to logic and reason, the integrity of the Bible, the person of God and the Gospel.

Stanley lives by "self pronouncement" not the Word of God. He divides the Bible up - doing a cut-and-paste hatchet job on the Word as it pleases each of his "pronouncements".

That then leads him to do a hatchet job on the God of the Bible - dividing it into different gods.

I have to admit - we can see pretty mach whacko-eisegesis on stanley's part. It is a witness to all who would abandon the Word of God and opt for "self authority" over the Word.

But still "Fun to read".

In Christ,

Bob

 

Very true. I in fact Paul explicitly argues that "EVE was FIRST deceived" it does not argue "Adam was FIRST deceived into listening to Eve and then Eve was deceived".

But there are soooo many "bible facts" that contradict Stanley's "stanleyism" that it is hard to know where to start.

In Christ,

Bob

 

That's the main reason I don't reply to his threads. And the impression I get by reading his posts is that he's not open to any correction.

 

I'm not sure of your exact point here but Jesus said that the devil was a murderer from the beginning, a liar, the father of lies and there is no truth in him. (John 8:44) No matter how you word it, he lied to Eve because he deceived her.

 

I do agree with much of what you have written, here, even though I would almost entirely disagree with you on the Mosaic law ["Can you say seventh?" as Fred Rogers, of red sweater and "Won't you be my neighbor?" fame (and who incidentally was also an ordained Presbyterian minister), might have asked.] but that is another thread. As to the "cut-and-paste hatchet job on the Word" I would hazard a guess that stanleyg, no doubt uses a STANLEY® hatchet for this!?!? :tongue3: :laugh: :laugh:

Ed

 

So, if someone disagrees with you, they hate you?

hmmm...