Does the New Testament teach us that we can use instrumental music in worship

and no, we shouldnt add food to communion, etc. But your point is still illogical.

 

pitch pipe sounds...denoting the beginning of my response:

GWIT,

Your questions have been answered. Many times. We can't help it if you don't like the answers or if your house of cards comes a tumblin'.

Just to humor you...

do you think that we can add some cake and ice cream to the lord's supper?

Red herring. Cake and ice cream are not discussed in the Psalms, and in Revelation. Musical instruments are. You've been ignored on this one because it's a thorougly silly comment. 0 for 1.

do you think that we can baptize by pouring or sprikling instead of immersion?

"Baptize" MEANS "immerse;" thus by its own definition excludes other modes. "Music" can be instrumental or not. "Sing" does not exclude "play" by it's own definition. You're 0 for 2.

do you think that we can baptize infants?

Of course we can. It's just a waste of time and cheapens baptism. What does this have to do with anything? And quit insulting us that play music...as though we're making a mockery of God. 0 for 3.

do you think that we can offer insence to God?

You mean "incense?" Priesthood of the believer. No need. Now what does that have to do with a piano? 0 for 4.

do you think that we can offer animal sacrifices to God?

Well...see...there was God's Son, Jesus, and...
Of course not. Now HOW, exactly, do you tie the cessation of sacrifice in with instrumental music??? Scripture TELLS us that there is no need for sacrifice. Scripture NEVER tells us there is no need for musical instruments. 0 for 5.

and is worshiping in a building a sin? no it is not the bible tells us to assemble thats all, so that is what we do we assemble it doesn't specify where.

Oh, now we come to the crux of the argument. It seems that when the Bible is silent, that we can sometimes assume that it's forbidden; and other times assume it's OK. We just have to depend on CoC theology to tell us which is which. Inconsistency. 0 for 6. I'm sending you back to the minors to work on your swing.

(sound of an untuned sackbut indicates the end of my response)

RBell

 

my favorite inconsistency is this...

"God forbids musical instruments. But it's OK to MIMIC THE INSTRUMENTAL SOUNDS as long as we use our VOCAL CHORDS to do it."

Groups such as Acapella and AVB (who are very entertaining and talented groups BTW, and who love God--I've talked with both) make a living with that approach, and stay booked in CoC venues all the time.

 

The word of God also specifies that the early church met in homes. The early church went from house to house. Using your standards none of us should meet in a church building - ever.

Can you help me to see the consistancy in your argument here?

 

Then you might want to tell some of you CoC brethren...they haven't gotten the memo.

Singing can't be entertaining as well as worshipful? Methinks you have a bit of a self-righteous tone here...

You know, it's possible for a song to teach and admonish as well.

 

How do the hundreds of thousands people who are mute, to the point they can not produce any vocal sound, make melody in their hearts to God in worship? Is there other ways to make a melody in their hearts?

 

God never told us to use a building - the early church ALWAYS used homes. Using a building is adding to God's plan for worship - therefore sin.

This is your exact logic for instruments. You like one and don't like the other. Let's be consistent and not use man's logic, but the word of God.

 

Dustin...

Dude...you are doing the VERY THING that you're accusing others of doing!

Earlier, you used an example from Leviticus to prove your point. If we can't use OT to prove our point, then why do you do it?

Also...remember that scripture in Revelation? Seems God likes harps...

Furthermore...we are told to sing Psalms (NT). Many of the Psalms are meant to be accompanied (look up all the musical references). So...we're commanded to do something in the NT that you say we should no longer do any more...what gives? When did God change His mind?

Also...forgive the shouting...

THE PSALMS AIN'T THE LAW. It's wisdom literature.

You need to review OT literature a bit. The Psalms have a different purpose than Leviticus.

And...I'm not quite ready to throw out the entire OT...I have a feeling God still uses it.

BTW, you pestered us to answer your question. When do you plan to address C4K's?

 

Come on Gib, that's why we have PITCH PIPES.

 

Now I understand why Tator said she had not posted here............too much rhubard can give you the trots....I might have known this cofc denomination/cult was involved somewhere.

Yes, Tator,,you have the song I was thinking about........I sometimes get the words tangled about...but the essence is there....:applause:

Cheers,

Jim

 

Hold on. Back up the truck there, Dustin.

First, you say this.

Nobody will disagree that God is the audience for, and object of, our worship.

Here's where you go wrong again.

If I play an instrument and worship God by playing, then why should it say something that you would understand? God is the audience for, and object of, our worship, not you. Since you are not God, how can you possibly say that the instrumentalist can say nothing to God using the instrument and the talent that God has given said instrumentalist?

See the point above. Once again, you show your total lack of consistency and are preaching your personal preference as doctrine.

 

GWIT,

The arguments (Biblical and logical) against your position...



...seem to be piling up...

 

too much rhubarb around here for me ...(trotting....) Hm, that makes me think of Trotter, lol. Eew. Oh well.

 

I think the sad thing is that this is now the 119th post on a subject that all but one of us agree on.

 

Wasnt there one other? You're right, it is sad. We certainly arent building one another up nor honoring God.