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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by The Biblicist, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. The Biblicist

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    An interesting article. Not all Protestants are Christians.
    Here is another that might be more noteworthy.

    In our present day, the Calvinists, or those of the Reformed movement, do not believe other evangelicals, especially dispensationalists are even saved.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20040311190511/www.allreform.co.uk/LonDec2000.htm

     
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    I always like when I find a good Catholic. I should be considered a Heretic to Catholics. Makes it easier to point out that Catholics and Protestants are not the same. There are very clear and distinct differences between the two and they can't both be right. One must be right and the other must be wrong.
     
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    They'll let have anyone have a webpage these days.
     
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    I sure am glad I am a Baptist and not a Protestant. Of course I call Roman Catholics, Roman Catholics. I believe everyone should!

    Sadly, I believe there are some people amongst Roman Catholicism who, like this person and given the power, would restore the Holy Roman Empire and slaughter dissidents much as they did in the dark ages. Sort of like Islam wanting to restore the Caliphate!!
     
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    I don't believe that for one minute, excluding "kooks" of course, who are found at the third standard deviation level in any group or subgroup including baptists.
     
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    Of course I disagree with that conclusion about dispensationalists.
     
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    No, a Baptist brider does believe that there are true Christians in all denominations. He simply does not believe the bride consists of all true Christians but believes the whole new earth will contain such Christians - Rev. 21:24.
     
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    One doesn't necessarily have to be right. If you and I disagree at least one of us is wrong. Maybe both.
     
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    Good point. Although I wouldn't be a Christian if I didn't believe it was right. :)
     
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    No Calvinist that I have ever encountered has ever said such a thing. Perhaps some hyper-Calvinists have. You have the tendency to confuse categories.
     
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    Ms. Horvat (who still holds to the Mass in Latin) is at odds with the Vatican on this. There are still some like her out there, but they are about as representative of Catholicism as Fred Phelps was of Baptists.

    We're schismatics, at worst, not heretics. I believe "separated brethren" is the post-Vatican II term.
     
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    The quote I posted was from The London Declaration of 2000 made by The Alliance of Reformed Christians.
    These Reformed believers believe they own the title of "evangelical," exclusively, meaning that if you are outside of the Reformed faith, you are not evangelical. One could infer from a statement like that, that you are not then Christian.
    Look at these portions of their declaration (a broad representation of Calvinists) that I have posted:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20040311190511/www.allreform.co.uk/LonDec2000.htm

    Look at the derogatory language used toward those that are dispensationalists?
    One would wonder if they consider them "brethren" or not? I can't tell. It seems like we are heretics in their view. It appears that they are the only "evangelicals" and to be an evangelical one must be "Reformed."
    This of course is arrogance and grievous error.

    Who are they:
    http://www.alliancenet.org/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID307086_CHID798774_CIID2382696,00.html
     
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    Calvinist Theonomist Francis Nigel Lee believes Baptists should be arrested and put in prison for refusing to "baptize" their infant children, and that those children should be removed from Baptist homes and raised by good Paedobaptists.

    His complete, and badly flawed, article can be seen at:
    http://www.francisnigellee.com/wp-c...tists-and-Their-Stepchildren-Dr.-F.N.-Lee.pdf
     
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    Anyone who calls them self a Christian, goes to church on Sunday and then comes home and has a baked ham dinner is a dispensationalist.


    HankD
     
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    NEVER a baked ham........Perhaps a beef or a pork roast.......but never a baked ham.:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I personally would classify this as a third standard deviation character and thus a "kook".
     
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    Or best of all - BBQ Pork Ribs!!

    HankD
     
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    Ribs and beans :smilewinkgrin:
     
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