Featured Drinking: Can You Really Handle It?

Thats funny....I just view you as hyper critical nut jobs. This wall you put up against a person simply because they have an occasional drink makes me NOT want to have anything to do with you.

 

But that doesn't make your view any more credible?

Perhaps such a post just shows how entrenched in deceit one may be.

What is the very definition of deceit or being deceived?

Is the one deceived aware until the deceit is accomplished?

"Wine is a mocker" - that is fact - just as true as "God is love." If one accepts the later as factual, they remain inconsistent by not accepting the first as factual.

The goal of the enemy is to deceive. One is not wise if they are deceived.

That is Scriptural principle.

That some make all manner of excuse and look for "permission" is just further evidence of the power of deceit.

 

I'm curious how you view the cup in 1Corinthians 11:17-33

Paul said that some were getting drunk (verse 21), and for that reason many were sick and some had died. This was the Lord's Supper, and Paul doesn't seem to reprimand them for using an alcoholic drink, just that they were abusing it.

 

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

In the first place, I was simply making an exegetical point, using my Greek experience to try to help folks understand the Word a little more. In the second place, I've done these alcohol threads before, and really don't feel like taking the abuse again from drinkers (not that you are that way--don't really know you--but see EWF's post#43 already). In the third place, if I were going to make a point about the issue, I certainly wouldn't use the Corinthian church, possibly the worst one Paul wrote to. :type:

 

He didn't just 'write' to the church at Corinth, he founded it. He knew it well.

 

Quite true! Maybe he thought it would be a big enough task to just get them to quit being drunkards--much less stop drinking alcohol. :laugh: (See also 5:11, where they were not even supposed to hang out with drunkards!)

 

Drink to forget you....rofl

 

You should have been a lawyer:laugh: first off, alcohol cannot control thems that are in control of themselves so a drink now and again is for beverage enjoyment only. Now it appears that if the truth were to be told, there is probably a majority of you who are or were alcoholics in the past, or else you have alcoholic relatives who you have observed with drinking g problems so you shun it and want deeply from eradicate it from the planet.

Well now to thems who would like nothing better than to have proabition returned, I say "be afraid....be very afraid " because if someone wants it then they will find a way to get it. Now its done deceptively vs up front and above board....and you will NOT know until it is too late.

 

Completely unprovoked.

 

No provocation.

 

No baiting occurred here.

 

Are you making the wild assumption that everyone who drinks in moderation will one day be a drunk? if so based on what evidence?

https://highlandsministriesonline.o...ented-wine-or-grape-juice-at-the-last-supper/

Are you basing your conclusions on alcohol based on the culture and churches interpretations or are you basing your conclusions on what the Bible says? My guess would be the former which is not unlike most.

Check out this article

http://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/guilty-conscience/

It may be wise for many whom cannot control themselves and or others to abstain. But don't assume everyone has this problem.

In the meantime I suggest you buy and read this book as I am presently doing. Its a deep academic read so go through it slowly.

 

This is false information. I for one would drink a Mikes only for the taste and sugar which is quite good. I would not drink it for the buzz.

 

Your reasons are noble. I also like how you do not label everyone and try and militate your situation on everyone else unlike the sermons of Fundamentalist Baptists.

 

Drinking any amount is not the smartest thing we can do. We shouldn't drink at all if there is the slightest indication in our behavior that we "can't handle it," as RD2 has said in the OP. That indication would be any behavior that has us talking to ourselves about whether to have a drink, or another drink. If we have to debate ourselves, then we shouldn't be doing it, because that "debate" is actually our excuse mechanism kicking in to justify having a drink that we shouldn't have.

That said, of course, there is ample and good evidence that the nightly glass of white or red wine is a healthy undertaking, but even that may be used as an excuse to have no just one or two, but four or five.

Bottom line: If you look for a reason or an excuse to drink, you shouldn't.

(PS: I answered "yes" to all the poll questions except the last two, because I quit drinking long before I became a Christian, because the U.S. Army told me to quit drinking, or quit flying -- and made it clear they didn't really care which, but I needed to pick one. I had to make the same choice, though personally, not professionally, imposed about gambling some ten years later. Wine and the very occasional beer is something I now do enjoy, but one or two is plenty. I don't need anymore than that, and no, I'm not sinning. I've settled that with God long ago. Gambling? No way I even stand next to the lottery display at Quik Trip. That's my downfall.)