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Dubai Ports World: Commercial Racial Profiling

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Anything involved with the security of this nation should not be under foreign control or have foreign involvement. Pre-09/11 only 5% of shipping containers coming into our ports were screened. Post-09/11 only 5% of shipping containers coming into our ports are screened, yet we are supposedly fighting a war on terror. The outsourcing of America has gotten ridiculous to the point of undermining our security, just as the globalists have it planned. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if some of these people who approved this company taking over our ports actually own shares of stock in the same company. And why was this approval all done in secrecy? So what if it's called racial profiling. So what. Would these same people be screaming about racial profiling if the company was owned by the KKK? I doubt it.
     
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    A world class company can hardly be compared to a racist organization such as the KKK.
     
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    Wouldn't it be a curious thing if OBL or the bin Laden family happened to own a lot of shares of Dubai Ports World? Well, wouldn't it? I wonder who DOES own Dubai Ports World and if we could find out? It might prove interesting.
     
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    Thanks, & look at this:

    <a href="http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/corrupt/2002/0218gold.htm" target="_blank">Al Qaeda's Gold: Following Trail to Dubai
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    I don't see where that is relevant to this case, LE.

    By the way, the government of Dubai, one of the seven sheikhdoms that make up the UAE, owns DP World.
     
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    Thanks, Ken, I found that out. They also own the banks that launder money for al Qaeda.

    You can't tell me some deal hasn't been cut behind the scenes & it sure wasn't in the interest of American citizens and taxpayers.
     
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    Doesn't matter in regards to U.S. security since there is no threat to it involved in this deal.
     
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    What would you all prefer that the Arabs do with all their US money? Can't spend it all on vacations.
     
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    This is actually one of the few things I agree with Ken about. There is a huge bru-ha-ha over nothing. These are capitalists of the highest order. It's not much of a money maker, which is the reason the Brits are getting out and there isn't hardly anyone else that wants it. Security is a non issue also because we can't inspect even one in fifty containers coming in through these ports anyway.

    They are nothing compared to the power the unions have that they must deal with. I'm wondering if this whole thing is a grand try at breaking the unions. I hope so.
     
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    Referable to the link I posted to which you said that is an irrelevent factor, Dubai still won't allow us to track al-Qaeda accounts through their banking system. I think that is relevent to our war on terror and giving them control over our port system.

    And I am not forgetting that in July 2001, Dubai is where our CIA had a meeting with OBL before 09/11 in a hospital there, so unless a lot has changed since then, OBL is a welcome guest there.

    I really don't understand where you are coming from on this one, Ken, and why you think this is such a great deal for this country to have access to information about our ports and why you don't think this is a security threat. Would you care to list your reasons why you are with Bush on this one?
     
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    Personally I'm against the deal. I just thought I'd pop in here to assure those that are in favor of it that they will eventually get their way. Any divisions in the congress this large can only be a theatrical production named Miss Direction. Or maybe Mass Distraction. I don't know for sure but I'm pretty convinced it's a remake based on an old script.

    The senate is about to pass the expanded Patriot Act BTW.

    [ February 22, 2006, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: poncho ]
     
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    I really don't understand where you are coming from on this one, Ken, and why you think this is such a great deal for this country to have access to information about our ports and why you don't think this is a security threat. Would you care to list your reasons why you are with Bush on this one?
     
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    DP World will only be involved in managing some terminals in only six U.S. ports. It's not like all of our ports will be managed by it. I recall hearing that in one of the ports there are six terminals and DP World will managing only one of the six. I have not heard how the situation in at the other five ports.

    DP World is a world class company. It's not like it is some backroom operation. It has every reason to prove that is can reliably manage the terminals it will be responsible for.

    The UAE has been a very good ally in the fight against al Qaeda. If we stick our thumb in their eye why should we expect them or any other Arab country to help us in the fight with al Qaeda. The Bush administration did far too much damage to our credibility with other nations during President Bush's first term. He has done better with mending fences so far in his second term and I hope that he continues to do so. To stop this deal with an Arab ally would be a setback in this regard.

    I think that at least some of the opposition to this deal is kneejerk anti-Arab bigotry. And I think that at least some of the opposition to this deal is political posturing - either to show "toughness" on national security by some liberal Democrats or to show that "I stood up to the Bush administration" by some vulnerable Republicans up for reelection this year.
     
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    Again, I ask, where is the furor over ports that are managed by companies in Singapore and China? No where to be found, it appears. Additionally, the security of ports is not managed by these companies, or any of the other companies that manage ports. They're managed by Homeland Security.
     
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    1) DP World agreed to additional measures that P&O wasn't required to do.

    2) The people doing the work at the ports will be the same. This sale by P&O to DP World simply changes who makes the profit or loss.
     
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    http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/mar/25osama.htm
     
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