Earned Income Credit

Irrelevant. It provided welfare for the needy.

 

No where in the scripture does it tell the government to forcibly take from those who have and give it to those who don't. You are blinded by the unreality of the social gospel and your unbiblical belief in the power of government.

 

No. God commands it. And if you don't comply you are sinning against God. So your point is irrelevant. Also note Our government doesn't forceably take it. We reliquish our access of it to the government. Big difference.
Oh and since you suggest my POV is unbiblical lets look at Deuteronomy 15:11

 

Again, the scripture is speaking to individuals. It does not mandate that the government force me to give anything to anyone. You keep trusting in government. I'll trust in God's word.

 

Your greed is showing, again!

 

Robert, since you are so quick to accuse others of greed...

What percentage of your gross income did you donate to the needy last month?

I ask only so that I may have some sort of measure of your moral standing in judging others in the area of greed.

 

The law is speaking to the NATION OF ISRAEL. EVERYONE IN IT. They are a covenant people and obliged to live according to his law as individuals and as a community governed by Law. Welfare was thus established to this nation.

 

Just curious. What if Robert gave 90% to the needy (not that he was right to call sag greedy I certainly wouldn't)?

 

Your Biblical argument still has no merit.

Should they? Yes they should because God commanded it.
Are the forced to by threat of goverment intervention if they didn't? No

 

Good insight - he has no moral standing to call another greedy.

My question as to his level of charity was meant to prompt self examination on his part.

 

Since their nation was governed by God by not participating in the communal welfare God would withold his blessings acording to the law and let them be over run by Philistenes, Midianites, etc... Sounds forced to me. How about the US government said. We won't protect you if you don't pay taxes or pay a certain amount to welfare? The argument is very valid.

 

I'll never comprehend the ability to justify stealing from those who work hard to give to those who won't. Will just have to agree to disagree.

 

Ok..........

 

Perhaps those who aren't angered by the theft of our income by the government to redistribute to others happen to be people who aren't losing that much.

Some of us might just be more irritated because we tend to lose a lot more than they do.

I've never seen a welfare recipient angered by the idea of raising taxes.

 

True - but they can become quite upset at the prospect of reducing taxes for the "rich".

 

>No where in the scripture does it tell the government to forcibly take from those who have and give it to those who don't.

NOT EXACTLY. Each male was required to pay a large temple tax. According to God the priests were to run the welfare system.

 

You cannot read, can you?

Let me help here - No where in the scripture does it tell the government to forcibly take from those who have and give it to those who don't.

 

What happened to the separation of church and state?

You now want the government to fill the role of the temple?

Perhaps that is what Democrats do want...

After all they did hail their new leader as he stood on his temple steps as he accepted the nomination.

 

Actually the Earned Income Tax Credit was passed during the Nixon Administration and went into effect during the Ford Administration.

 

I too think that when one receives more refund than they paid into the system, then it is welfare. However the EITC was devised to offset any income tax, payroll tax, and sales tax that a low income worker had paid, so one needs to look at more than just income taxes paid.



Wonder too....since most states pay a fairly large sum for in-state students to attend public-supported State Universities and Colleges....if that in-state student graduates and accepts employment out of state and never pays state taxes again....would that be considered welfare because they accepted more in college tuition fees than they ever pay back?