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Eight Things That Are More Important Than Hillary's Pneumonia

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    Donald Trump’s religious test for migrants
    In December 2015, Trump called for “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States”. Since then his position has shifted somewhat; in June he said “I want people that have bad thoughts out” and his finance chairmanexplained: “It is about Muslims from countries that support terrorism.” The RNC chairman, Reince Priebus, has denied that this would amount to a religious test.

    Donald Trump’s support of torture
    In February, Trump said “Torture works. OK, folks?” and has endorsed waterboarding, which was banned by George W Bush in 2006, saying: “I like it a lot. I don’t think it’s tough enough.”

    Donald Trump’s attitude towards freedom of the press
    He argued that libel laws should be expanded, so that “when the New York Times or the Washington Post writes a hit piece, we can sue them”.

    Donald Trump’s attitude towards women
    Trump has written that “Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers.” He has criticized female public figures for their appearance and retweeted the question: “If Hillary Clinton can’t satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?” before deleting it. He also stated that “there has to be some form of punishment” for women who have abortions (he subsequently released a statement that, where abortion was illegal, doctors, not women, should bear criminal responsibility).

    The prospect of Donald Trump as commander in chief
    Retired General John Allen has warned of a “civil military crisis where the military could be ordered to conduct illegal activities” if Trump is elected. Former CIA director, Michael Hayden, has expressed concern about how “erratic” Trump is,saying: “He’s inconsistent. And when you’re the head of a global superpower, inconsistency, unpredictability, those are dangerous things. They frighten your friends and they tempt your enemies. And so I would be very, very concerned.” The Trump campaign denies reports that, referring to nuclear weapons, he asked a foreign policy expert, “If we have them, why can’t we use them?” three times during a briefing.

    Donald Trump’s donations to public officials
    Trump told the Wall Street Journal in 2015: “As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.” Trump donated $25,000 to Florida’s attorney general, Pam Bondi, a few days after her office said it would review allegations made against Trump University in 2013. The review was ended without any action being taken. Bondi denies any impropriety.

    Donald Trump’s attitude to climate change
    The Republican candidate has said he would withdraw from the Paris deal on cutting emissions, and in 2014 referred to the scientific consensus on global warming as “bullshit”, stating that “our planet is freezing”. The 10 hottest years on record have all occured since 1998.


    Mike Pence’s beliefs

    The man who will be a heartbeat away from the presidency also questions the expert consensus on global warming, saying the “science is very mixed”. He has refused to say he’s convinced by the theory of evolution. He voted against measures designed to prevent discrimination based on sexual orientation and opposed equal marriage.

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-pneumonia-more-important-things-donald-trump
     
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    Mike Pence voted against pro sodomite measures and you say that's a problem?

    Your fruit and values betrayeth thee.
     
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    Crazy ain't it CTB? Yet the press is focusing on the Alex Jones type conspiracy theories of the latest medical nut job who supports Trump while he runs around doing all this stuff.
     
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    Article is built on the premise that Hillary has pneumonia, and only pneumonia. We don't know.

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    #1 should be Hillary's underlying health problem that she is hiding from voters.
     
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    10 Reasons (actual facts, not silly political myths) nobody who loves America can vote for Hillary Clinton.

    1. Those pesky E-Mails
    Hillary Clinton’s conduct in setting up a private e-mail server which transmitted top secret information and the FBI declining to recommend criminal charges demonstrates that she is above the law. Worse, Hillary acts like there is one law for her and her family and one law for everyone else. Oh, she takes “full responsibility” for her e-mails while saying other Secretaries of State have done the same. So when Hillary takes full responsibility for something, she is really taking no responsibility at all. This is a very dangerous quality for someone who seeks the office of President of the United States.

    2. Benghazi
    Any government official who feels the need to ask, “At this point what difference does it make?” where it concerns the deaths of four Americans including our Ambassador to Libya is unfit to be President of the United States. Mind you she asked this question after publicly blaming an internet video for the attack on the consulate, an attack that just happened to occur on the 11th anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Of course, her e-mail correspondence with daughter Chelsea on the attack indicated it was carried out by an “al Qaeda like group.” Again, Hillary takes full responsibility, but as she told Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes, “It was not my ball to carry.” We’ve come a long way from “The Buck stops here” to “It was not my ball to carry.” In this case, a long way isn’t a good way.

    3. The Clinton Foundation
    Hillary Clinton turned the State Department into her family’s personal hedge fund by using the Clinton Foundation to sell access to foreign governments, many of which have dubious human rights records? At the very minimum, there is the appearance of impropriety. At worst, there’s enough corruption to put the UN to shame.

    4. Russian Reset
    Hillary Clinton has got Russia wrong from the moment she gave Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov a red button that was supposed to say reset in Russian. But instead of saying ‘perezagruzka’ it read ‘peregruzka,’ which means overcharged. It is nevertheless somehow fitting. Hillary may be the only person who actually believes the Russian reset worked. She claimed this because it brought the Russians around on sanctions against Iran. Well, where are those sanctions now? Also the people of Ukraine and Crimea might disagree with that assessment. Oh, things have been reset all right when a 3-Star Russian general can walk into the U.S. Embassy in Iraq and tell our military what to do. Let’s put it another way. How well has the Russian reset worked if Hillary’s surrogates are blaming Russia for the leak of the DNC e-mails in order to help Trump?

    5. She Doesn’t Possess an Ounce of Conviction (Although a Conviction is Certainly in Order)
    If there’s a position, Hillary Clinton has held it. She’s been for the War in Iraq and she has been against it. She has been against gay marriage and she has been for it. She was pro-Israel, then anti-Israel, and now she’s pro-Israel again. She was for TPP and then along came Bernie Sanders and now she’s against it. Ditto for the Keystone Pipeline. Hillary has wrapped herself in the Second Amendment and has praised Australia’s gun confiscation program. Hillary Clinton isn’t the first politician to flip-flop and she won’t be the last, but she has turned flip-flopping into her default position. Combine this with her propensity for lying, there’s no reason anyone should believe a word that passes her lips.

    6. Her Contempt for Working People (Coal Miners in Particular)
    During a Democrat Town Hall meeting last March, Hillary said, “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.” This did not amuse Bo Copley, a laid off coal miner from West Virginia, who had the rare opportunity to publicly take her to task during a round table discussion in early May. Fighting back tears, Copley asked, “I just want to know how you can say you’re going to put a lot of coal miners out of, out of jobs, and then come in here and tell us how you’re going to be our friend, because those people out there don’t see you as a friend.” Hillary’s response was typically self-serving. She told Copley: I don’t know how to explain it other than what I said was totally out of context from what I meant, because I’ve been talking about helping coal country for a very long time. And it was a misstatement, because what I was saying is that the way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs. Well, when people hear someone use the word “we’re,” that means Hillary intends to actively put coal miners out of business. Coal miners don’t need her kind of help. Hillary’s contempt for working people is plain to see as is her eagerness to insult people’s intelligence.

    7. Calling Assad a Reformer
    In February 2011, while appearing on CBS’s Face the Nation then hosted by Bob Schieffer, she incredulously claimed that Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad was “a reformer.” As soon as she made that claim, Schieffer reminded her that his father had killed tens of thousands of people. Hillary countered the younger Assad was “a different leader.” An estimated 400,000 people have died during the Syrian Civil War. Some difference.

    8. The Obama Administration’s Designated "Yeller" at Benjamin Netanyahu
    Hillary’s treatment of Assad contrasts with that of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In July 2014, she boasted in an interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria that she was the Obama Administration’s designated "yeller." Most of this yelling came over the question of settlements. It’s too bad she couldn’t have the Administration’s designated yeller at Assad (or for that matter the Iranian Mullahs) for murdering their own people. Put the pressure where it belongs.

    9. Republicans & The NRA Are My Enemies
    In her 60 Minutes interview alongside Tim Kaine, she boasted about her success in working with Republicans. Yet last October when Anderson Cooper asked which enemy she was proudest of making, she listed Republicans and the NRA (along with the drug and health insurance companies) alongside Iran. Say what you will about Republicans, the NRA or the drug/health insurance companies, but I don’t recall any of them chanting “Death to America!!!”

    10. Sniper Fire in Bosnia
    During her first White House bid in 2008, Hillary told a tall tale about being under sniper file with daughter Chelsea in Bosnia in 1996. Although she was criticized for it at the time, it didn’t force her to withdraw from the race. Let’s remember that it was only last year that Brian Williams was suspended for six months and lost his position as NBC news anchor because of his false claim that he had been under sniper fire while in Iraq in 2003. As was asked at the time, “If Williams can no longer be the face of NBC, then can Hillary no longer be the face of the Democratic Party?”

    [http://spectator.org/10-reasons-why-i-will-never-vote-for-hillary-clinton/]
     
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    She was visibly angry at Matt Lauer for bringing them up. She desperately wants the issue to go away. I read her rant she went on in her dressing room after the forum. It has far too much foul language in it to post here plus it's difficult to verify, but she mainly wanted Lauer's hide for bringing up those "pesky emails".
     
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    Yeah, I cleaned up the actual quote. That woman has a foul mouth!
     
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