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Featured Election 2013 Results

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by saturneptune, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    A study by Progressive Review two years after that election showed that there was no polling movement in Florida or any other key state between Gore and Nader, meaning he didn't cost Gore the election.

    Sarvis cost Cuccinelli the election. Period. In addition, Sarvis isn't even a Libertarian!

    Yeah, Republicans gave Nader a paultry few thousand dollars to no avail. So who bankrolled this successful torpedoing of Cuccinelli?

    Another method of stealing an election -- finance the guy that will siphon votes off from your opponent. Legal? Yeah. Ethical? Not even.
     
  2. sag38

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    I am in the district where the so called "Tea Party" Candidate lost here in Alabama. And, Crabby this had nothing to do with the Tea Party. The candidate that won is very conservative. There are too many Tea Party folks who would have a problem with Bradly Bryne. Dean Young lost because he is a fire brand. He distorted his military record. He was quick to lose his temper when challenged. He was tied in with Judge Roy Moore. And, to back up the suspicions of many who voted for Bryne, Young acted like a baboon in his concession speech. Before you made your #3 remark you should have done your homework before drinking the kool aide from the "
    bedwetters are us" network or other news source.
     
  3. Crabtownboy

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    I guess itis a matter of opinion. I'd suggest you do some homework on what is being said.

    There are a whole lot more links I could post. But seems I was right.
     
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    DNC operatives, there is just no reasoning with them.
     
  5. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    CTB, what you and the lying liberal media fail to account for is how a leader in the Tea Party movement in Virginia from the beginning could close down a seven-point deficit in the polls to virtually nothing in less than 48 hours, particularly if the dislike of the Tea Party is so widespread. How does that happen? Maybe you can explain it.

    Now, you include a Bloomberg link in your post, and while I admit Bloomberg isn't exactly a bastion of wild-eyed liberal "thought" (using the term loosely, as though liberals think), the writer is Julie Hirschfeld Davis, herself a wild-eyed liberal who doesn't think. She is Bloomberg's effort to be "fair and balanced" so they don't run off their potential liberal readers and advertisers, which probably only exist in the mind of the sales and marketing departments. The rest of your links are typical liberal B/S artists who may not reveal their liberal/socialist bias, but don't pretend to be anything else, either, unlike Davis.
     
  6. sag38

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    I am here on the scene. I keep a close watch on political matters especially considering the two candidates running for US Congress. And, all Crabby can give are articles from fellow bedwetters. But, that in no way surprises me. Crabby needs to step into the no spin zone where reality and honesty are virtues.
     
  7. Crabtownboy

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    Sure, it was more of a referendum on Obamacare than against the Democratic candidate. Many who voted against Mr. Mc were actually protesting Obamacare. Even very conservative friends, high school classmates, where I grew up in VA says that is the case. If Obamacare had not been an issue the Democrat would have won in a landslide. Many moderate Republicans in VA were very unhappy with their candidate. Changing demographics also played a role. I noted in several counties, including the one where I grew up, the county went for the Republican, but the town/city went for the Democrat. i.e. Staunton, Roanoke, Harrisonburg, Danville, Petersburg just to name a few. That is a big change from the past.

    If the article does not agree with you, you call it a name. As I do not live in Alabama I have to go on the article I find and read.
     
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  8. OldRegular

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    And all of them print nothing but leftist fiction!
     
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    It seems that city folks are more prone to desire the government mammary gland than rural folks!



    You read nothing but liberal tripe!
     
  10. InTheLight

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    This is false. Had Ralph Nader not been a candidate, Gore would have won Florida and the Presidency.
     
  11. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    ITL, you just called me a liar and I don't appreciate it. So this will be the last post of yours to which I respond. Take this from your own nutsy liberal-tree hugger types and stuff it.

     
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    Okey-Dokey. Nice ad-hominem. You must know these facts:

    1. Bush took Florida over Gore by 537 votes.
    2. Ralph Nader received 97,488 votes in Florida
    3. Pat Buchanan got 17,484 votes in Florida.
    4. Harry Browne (Libertarian) got 16,415 votes in Florida
    5. Several other candidates got votes totaling 6,680 in Florida.

    I say that the bulk of Nader's votes would have gone to Gore, had Nader not been in the contest. I can't reasonably presume that even 10,000 of Nader's votes would have gone to Bush had he not been in the race, but let's say it would have gone that way. So Gore gets 87,488 of Nader's votes and Bush gets 10,000. Now let's assign all other third party candidates and write-in votes to Bush. So here's the result of these adjustments:

    Gore receives 87,488 more votes from Nader voters.
    Bush receives 50,579 more votes from all other candidates.

    Gore wins Florida.

    Pretty obvious to me that Nader cost Gore the vote in Florida and therefore the overall election. The electoral votes of Tennessee are not a factor either way if Nader does not siphon votes from Gore in Florida.
     
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  13. Crabtownboy

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    These are those who contend that if the Independent in VA had not run then Cuccinelli would have won. Exit polls do not confirm this. Exit polls say that McAuliffestill would have won thought it would have been a closer election.


     
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  14. Crabtownboy

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    The question as to why McAuliffe won in Virginia is not the best question. The better question is why did the other Republican statewide candidates do so poorly? This is where the lesson for the Republicans should be studied.

     
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    I thought that the elections were a Democrat victory. Virginia is full of federal workers who have changed the demographics there. New York has mostly been a Democrat liberal city in the 20th century. As for New Jersey, now we are stuck with that Governor trying to impose himself on the GOP for the presidential nomination. If he had not called a special election, one wonders if he would have won.
     
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    The reason the democrat won is all those free loaders sucking at the federal mammary gland in northern Virginia.
     
  17. Crabtownboy

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    Just curious. What region does the majority of the collected Virginia state taxes come from? Northern Virginia and the Norfolk region.

    What region has the highest percentage on welfare? No it isn't Northern Virginia.
     
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    I contend it is welfare. Many of these people are performing useless tasks for a bloated federal bureaucracy and doing it at about twice the pay of the average worker in private business, Who said welfare did not pay?
     
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    So, can any of these results give us a hint of next year and control of the House and Senate?
     
  20. FollowTheWay

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    Face it. The Republican party is split into several factions which do not support each other. They're finished especially after putting party politics ahead of the good of the country. They have offered NO NEW IDEAS. Their only objective is to block everything Obama tries to do. They're finished. Good riddance.
     
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