Featured End times thoughts.....

I have heard of this thinking a lot in secular news media. They are called in essence "the real reason evangelicals support Israel" to vilify us, as always.

Israel, particularity Jerusalem, does seem to suffer in Revelation, but I do not understand where they get the idea 2/3 of Israel will perish. I see no support in Revelation for a Second Holocaust.

 

Zechariah 13:8
In the whole land, declares the LORD, two thirds shall be cut off and perish, and one third shall be left alive.

 

They are getting it from Christian dispensationalists.

The evening I came to faith in June 1979, it was one of the first things I 'learned.' The "counselor" gave me a Jack Chick tract called "Kings of the East" that explicitly states that "2/3 of all Jews are killed..." with the Zechariah 13:8 reference. You can see it yourself here (look at PDF page 14). The tract was eventually pulled from publication for its many faults, but it ties in nicely with the Left Behind chronology, as well as most other similar interpretations.

I grew up with this stuff.

 

He was considered one of the most authoritative theologians at the church where I grew up. Fortunately, I didn't run into his KJVO teaching until I had already rejected his authority. One of my friends immersed himself in all things Jack Chick (his aunt ran the local Christian book store and he had all of the Jack Chick tracts and books) and became a committed KJVO believer -- so much so that he believes that using a modern translation is evidence that a person is lost.

 

OT prophecy does state that there will be the time of Jacobs Folly, when God will once again deal with Israel once the times of the Gentiles has been fulfilled!
Zechariah 13:8

 

This is interesting. From my point of view I think God placed the broken off jews under his wrath until the end of the world.
“Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost [end].” (1 Thessalonians 2:16) (KJV 1900)

And the "times of the gentiles are fulfilled" at the end of the world. “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations [gentiles], baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Matthew 28:19–20) (KJV 1900)

During this time, the broken off Jews are technically the gentiles who trod down Jerusalem. (circumcision made one a Jew, not blood). But for the father's sakes, Christs grafts believers among them back into Israel (Christ and the Church).

 

The gentiles paul referenced were Gentiles, not jews who were lost!

 

All Jews are born gentiles until circumcised. They received excommunication (became gentiles) if not circumcised on the 8th day after being born. Christ abolished circumcision making all Jews gentiles by default.

 

Jews are born as such, being physical descendants of Abraham, regardless if circumcised or not!

 

Not true. None of Abraham's 300+ covenant seed and their families were related to him except Ishmael, when Circumcision became the sign of membership in the community. After Isaac came along, Abraham excommunicated Ishmael and Hagar and they were no longer his covenant seed.

 

The Jewish people are traced thru Isaac, and so any born of that linage are Jews at birth, period. The true seed of Abraham are those of like faith, saved Jews.Gentiles now by Jesus Christ!

 

I discovered DeMar years ago.

Also Stephen Sizer is very active as a Middle East Peacemaker & has written a number of useful books -

 

Are the C-Zionists showing their love for the Jews by encouraging as many as possible to move to Israel to maximize the number that will be slaughtered during Armageddon? Sounds like really vicious antisemitism.

Grace Halsell has investigated Israel, starting with a Zionist tour, & written a number of books.

 

Wow... how did you tolerate it?

 

And what if the females born into Jew families?

 

If born to a circumcised father, or married to a circumcised man, (Ruth, Rahab) etc, women are considered covenant members. Abraham's soldiers and their families made up most of his covenant seed through circumcision. While his physical seed, all related to him by blood (Ishmael, the Dukes of Edom, sons of Keturah, etc. ) make up much of the arab world.

 

Jews were not biblical Jews unless circumcised as members of the community. Regardless of blood relationship. When Christ abolished circumcision on the cross, the last of the genuinely circumcised Jews died off leaving only gentiles who practiced Jewish customs and traditions.

 

And now this