Ergun Caner leaves Liberty for Arlington Baptist College

Creep, Creep, Creep! His qualifications more appropriately for collecting garbage than teaching & administration. I would recommend NOT going to that college.

 

I will second that.....tad amount to insanity. Lets just open the door for any quack to come in and wreck our schools reputation (tarnished as it may already be). What a way to build credibility---NOT!

 

If he never lied then why in the world did they get rid of him?

 

A reminder for certain folks.

 

That is simply not true. No one attacked Caner, until he continued lying, dodging , and denying any wrong doing. He STILL denies any wrong doing. He STILL continues to fill pulpits and teach Seminarians, ALL without ever having so much as admitting wrong doing.


People are screaming, because the Church at large is NOT handling this in the proper manner. He should be disciplined, and removed from the community, until such time as he repents....

 

They just cannot let it go. They just want him utterly destroyed and will not be satisfied until he is.

 

So everyone that would like to see him repent, admit that he did indeed lie, and turn from that, wants him destroyed?? Really??

I don't want the man destroyed. I'd like to see him say, "ya know, things got away from me, I got caught up in the fame & notoriety, & I messed up.... Please forgive me." How is that wanting him destroyed???

I guess you'd think that because I'm glad Jack Schaap has been humiliated & will be spending a long time in prison, I'm an evil liberal or worse, Calvinist & want him destroyed!

Have some intellectual honesty!!

 

Jon, I have more important things to deal with than worrying about Ergun Caner. I do believe he discredited himself through his public actions. If he simply took responsibility for his actions (confessed and repented) the matter would disappear from the national scene. It would then be a local church matter.

That is one of the problems with having a public audience. One of the reasons I will use Joel Osteen's name on occasion is because he has placed himself on the public stage. If you spread falsehood publicly you are going to be exposed publicly. That happened to Ergun Caner. Sure, other public figures like James White took him to task for his actions. Did James White go overboard? The answer is yes or no depending on who you ask. But take a look at some of the collateral damage Ergun Caner caused:

1. Liberty University and Seminary lost credibility (and student enrollment).
2. Individual Christians felt compelled to choose sides further weakening unity.
3. The secular media used the controversy as an excuse to blaspheme.

The fallout is very sad. #2 on my short list is, in my opinion, the most egregious. Norman Geisler is a man of excellent reputation. He is the most notable man to come to Ergun Caner's defense. How unfair of Ergun Caner to place Norman Geisler in that situation. Of course Norman Geisler is a grown man who is responsible for his own actions, but the Caner affair sullied his reputation among some Christians, and not all of them are Calvinists.

I do not want to see Ergun Caner remain a by-word in some segments of Christianity. So much can be accomplished through repentance. It should put an end to the continued criticism he and his supporters face. His local church should be the entity that should deal with any church discipline that is deemed appropriate. Whether he should continue in Christian education is a decision left to the educational institutions. If his critics continue in their attacks even after his repentance then they should be scrutinized as to their true motives.

 

We are commanded by scripture to rebuke, and warn others of, false teachers. So until he publicly confesses and repents, or steps down from the pulpit, it would be an unbiblical and HATEFUL thing to do, to just "let it go." It would be like "forgiving" a bank robber, by leaving them alone with your church's weekly offering.

 

No, we want him to repent, OR, if he will not do it, block him from decieving the rest of the church with lies. If he really wants to be left alone, he could simply step down from the pulpit, if he refuses to repent.

As long as he refuses to do either, it is our job, as shepherds, to continually warn others about him.

 

Well, I am not continuing to attack him. Like I said, I have more important things to attend to. I was pointing out that the fallout from his actions have tentacles. He and his supporters will have to deal with that.