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essentially its the same version, just that the TNIV was discontinued to make way for the Niv 2011!

My favorite translation to study from is the NASB 1977 edition, also do use HCSB/ESV!

 

I have mixed feelings about the HCSB. I like that, overall, it is more literal than the NIV.

On the other hand, it seems to remove a lot of words that I am accustomed to reading.

 

Do you think the TNIV went too far with it's "gender inclusive" language?

 

yes, that is why I perfer to stick with the Nasb for my primary study version!

 

is the perception that the NASB is too "wooden" overstated?

 

yes, i'm finding myself dissatisfied with the HCSB now.

and, yes, good point. its does use other words. haha

 

i'll take any of the NIVs over the so called God's Word Translation!

i do prefer the ESV to the NIV, but that is a matter of preference.

 

It's God's Word, as I'm sure you know.

The heat over the Gender-neutral NIV is because it has been the bestselling version for a generation. (Although my guess is that the events since 1997 have eroded its market share a bit.) While some may use the NLT as their primary version, there's basically zero chance that it will become the #1 seller. I think that's why it usually isn't brought up in these debates. (However Grudem et al will mention it from time to time.) But to be consistent as you note, those who wanted Lifeway to throw out the NIV would needed to have called for them to get rid of the NLT as well.

 

I've thought about picking up a HCSB but have never gotten around to it with the exception of a pocket edition that lacks marginal notes. One reason is probably because they are all red letter editions, which I find difficult to read. There are also some unique formatting decisions made with the HCSB that J. Mark Bertrand gets into here.

Most of my reading in recent years has been from the KJV and NKJV and I've used the ESV and NASB a lot in the past. I used the NIV some when I first started reading the Bible, but haven't consulted it much over the past decade.

 

my favorites are the ESV, NASB, NKJV, NIV. the HCSB is disappointing. the NLT is oversimplified, in my opinion.

 

i think the reason the NLT is not spoken of much is because it's so "dynamic."

i find that it oversimplifies key passages. it seems fine until you compare it to the others.

 

As long as you realise its limitations...

My main beef on NLT is its decision to not keep traditional theological terms such as justification, propiation etc!

 

yes. not even the NIV uses "propitiation," right?

 

The CEB, CSB, EHV, ISV, NET and WEB don't use the word.
The NABRE, and NRSV use it only once.
The LEB uses it twice.
MOUNCE uses it thrice.
ESV, NASB and NKJV use it four times.
LSB uses the word five times.

Regarding the word reconciliation -- (not counting forms of the word) as it occurs in the New Testament only :

The NIV, CEB, EHV, NET, NRSV and NABRE all use it five times.
The LEB, LSB, NASB, MOUNCE, CSB and ESV all use it four times.
The NKJV, WEB and ISV use it three times.
The NLT uses it just once.

Regarding the word justification, (no other form of the word) :

The CSB, NABRE, NRSV use the word five times each.
The NIV and ISV use it four times.
The EHV, ESV, MOUNCE, NASB, NKJV, LSB, LEB and NKJV use it three times
The NET and WEB use it twice.
The CEB and NLT do not use the word at all.