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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Jedi Knight, Jul 19, 2010.

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  1. RAdam

    RAdam New Member

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    Notice that Paul is using the phrases "what then" and "what shall we say then" over and over again at various spots in the Roman letter. Why? Well, Paul is arguing a case, in legal fashion, and is arguing against a silent critic. That becomes obvious at even a cursory reading. Consider the 9th chapter, where Paul deals with the critic's objections to the doctrine of election. Notice that the same objections are still used today. Paul had his detractors, and well knew their arguments.

    So Paul is making a conclusion after he expresses grace, and first he argues against a conclusion of grace inspiring licentiousness, and in fact makes the opposite argument. It is grace that inspires obedience, not disobedience, says Paul.
     
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    Note in chapter 6 Pauls argument or contra arguments is from a position that those that have a problem come from a reasonable or logical assumption. Which is as he assumes is: if grace is everything then no need for obedience. However, he explains that grace does not negate obedience but obedience can now be obtained by grace. If obedience is not enacted grace becomes forfiet. thus
    a reasonable assumption as grace provides for forgiveness yet establishes the Christian position upon reciept of grace - one of Servitude or slave. We are either a slave to sin or a slave to God. But it is whom you obey that is the deciding factor.
    Not the one you have some vague idea of or believe loosely in some way or have had a religious experience.
     
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