Explain this to me

ABC, I think you should start packing.

Your rolling pin that is. One thunk on the head would put an end to that sort of nonsense.

 

The lesser civilized are among us everywhere.

 

Most of the people I've met like this have been baptist.

Probably just because I was raised baptist.

Please understand I am not claiming that all baptist men are creeps like this.

 

John B., former First Houston pastor, used to talk about this all the time. Personally, I don't think it's the appearances that is the issue as much as becoming, shall we say, too well acquainted.

[stinks] for the woman in the rain, though.

I couldn't imagine that any man who believed in this way would treat other women poorly just so he avoided the appearance. That would be pretty strange.

I think it's mostly just ignorant neophytes who were raised this way.

 

I'm not sure if you've ever seen any of Tyler Perry's work, but this scene from Madea's Family Reunion is rather poignant, in a humorous sort of way.

(Caution, there are a few uses of the word "hell" in the scene, plus some violence against a woman and later, her man).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4NS-E6XESM&feature=related

 

I think in England a lot changed in relations between women and men. Women took on trousers, went to work in factories, and did the work of men, whilst the men were overseas fighting.

There was a time when only men ate at the dining table, whilst women ate in the kitchen. Yet, when less formal we all ate together. After the war, all meals were in common; cultural change!

I went to all boys boarding school. The first female to join my class was in university when a woman dared to sit beside me. I got up and moved. Cultural.

It didn't take long to change. I am still standoffish, and expect I will be to my dying day. Respect, however, is always shown, and I do greet ladies first at church, but only shake hands with men........unless a woman offers her hand first. I do doff my hat though and slightly bow my head.

The Lord did teach me though...Wife, two daughters, no sons,,,,5 female dogs and one male.....and he is neutered...Was tat the lesson?

Cheers, and I do trust I always show respect equally to ladies in here.

Jim

 

She needs to call da PoPo! :laugh:

 

That is without question, Jim. You are always polite and respectful of everyone.

 

Holy Cow..... In the North where I live they would not only thank you ....they would pay you....you need to move. Nobody acts that way up here. They even have Women Pastors in the liberal churches & you can wear pants & know body will say a word.

 

Actually, it's based on scripture: 1 Thess 5:22 -- abstain from all appearance of evil....

Although I think leaving a woman to walk in the rain is taking that too far...since even Jesus allowed Himself to left alone with the woman at the well....

 

This passage was referring to a dispute over the use of tongues in the Thessalonian church. We see it misrepresented in this way all the time these days.

 

I can hardly see any of this as a dispute, in context, that it is a context of tongues.

Can you cite sources?

It looks as if, contextually, the instructions divert away from gifts to further instruction to abstain from all appearance of evil, and not as though this is a reference to tongues, but instead a reference to holiness in general.

Otherwise it seems to strain the text to apply it directly to tongues.


Having looked at 10 or more commentaries, I find nothing supporting that this refers to tongues, although I find your idea intriguing.


:jesus:

 

I like how the NASB translates 1Th 5:22. I think it does a better job at conveying the real meaning of the verse.


"Abstain from every form of evil." 1Th 5:22

Basically whenever evil appears, in any form we should flee from it. This is the real message of that verse.

 

Interesting tread to me, abc, because I recently became friends with a woman/classmate/PK who came from a long line of Baptist pastors (father, grandfathers, and uncles on both sides from the Utah and Colorado areas) and she is certainly having to deal with a lot of trauma and hard feelings related to her upbringing. I can’t go into detail, but I am slowly uncovering quite a few messed up issues concerning those hard feelings, apparently, mostly resulting from repression and legalism.

So am I.

 

Yes Steven. I don't think the interpretation of this is so strict that it only refers to tongues contextually.

I got an NASB for Christmas, and not until, and will begin using it as my main text shortly, and I look forward to it. I like how that verse reads also.

- Blessings

 

I had the lovely experience once in a church business meeting of being told to let the men ask the questions.

Now, bear in mind this was a democratic congregationally governed church by the by-laws.

We were discussing putting a new roof on the old building we had just voted to tear down in a few months when we built the new building. That roof would cost a quarter million.

Pastor presented his idea and asked if there were questions. I stood and asked if there were less expensive patching available since the building was soon to be destroyed.

Pastor shut me down with "let the men handle the stuff the men understand. Your question is silly."

Gentleman in the same pew stood and said "OK, let's settle this as men. Why put an expensive roof on a building we are tearing down so soon? Tell us men."

Upshot was we did put up the new roof but redesigned to a smaller new building, incorporating the old building as classrooms.

Some men forget that God DID give women brains.

 

This preacher literally said it just like that, "your question is silly"?