Featured Fact or Faked? Women & Divorcees Can Pastor SBC & Some IFB Churches

"Most"? Quite the exaggeration there.

 

You can't "undo" a mosquito bite.
You can't force a lion from being a carnivore into a herbivore.
You can't change the nature of the wolf from attacking the sheep.
You can't even change the nature of man from evil to good.
This earth is cursed with thorns and thistles and will be that way til Jesus comes.

Then come and "uncurse" my land! :laugh::laugh:

Pain out of childbirth!? Tell that to my wife!
Living longer? Have you ever heard about Methusaleh?
Even Jacob lived a long time, and that was after the flood. His 12 children became the 12 tribes of Israel. The amazing thing is, he didn't even marry until he was 75!

God expects us to use our minds. After 6-10 thousand years, one would expect that we would learn a thing or two on this earth.

Not the kingdom that Jesus was specifically referring to. Are you doing his will as it is being done in heaven?

You may disagree, but:
Will you also disagree with Isaiah?

Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
--I don't see any of these things taking place today, but they will in the kingdom.

We cannot reverse the curse. Only God can do that, and he has already revealed the time of that reversal in Scripture. He will not lie.

 

A- Which evangelical scholars do you find supporting the position that a woman can serve as the senior elder / pastor of a congregation? I would like the original poster to answer the same question.

B- "Most evangelicals"? Really? Which "evangelicals"? Not me. Or my seminary. Or any of the churches to which I have belonged or attended.

Let's make certain we are using the proper definitions. An evangelical Christian, among other things, holds a high view of Scripture. So, no deep offense if a reader happens to be one, but if you are a member of the PCUSA and advocate women elders, and in the same breath advocate practicing homosexuals (women or men), then I'm going to suggest to you that you aren't evangelical.

"Oh, but I would never ordain a homosexual." Why not, dear reader? "Because the Bible says homosexuality is wrong." Hmm, the Bible also says that man is the head of woman. Surely if we can ignore God's instructions about household and church "hierarchy" then we can also ignore those clearly outdated commandments about sexuality. Either you believe God's word or you don't.

 

There is only one thing that can undo the curse and that is the Blood of Christ. Man cannot take part in that.

 

Think that the "Evangelical scholars" that he would be citing would be identified as being listed among the "Whos Who: of the modern Evagekical left movement. ones that tend to agree with liberals that we need to reset both the bible and jesus into "contemporary culture"

 

The result of all of what you said is what most doctors do. In many things no cure can be found. All that they can do is treat the symptoms. There are many syndromes, illnesses, infirmities, etc., for which cures will never be found. But we treat the symptoms. As long as the curse is in place we treat the symptoms. That is very different than "undoing" the curse. God has given us a mind to use, and expects us to use it to discover his laws in science. Technology advances. No matter how much technology advances, a woman will always have pain in bearing a child. That is just a fact of life. We may make birth more comfortable. We may treat symptoms surrounding the curse. But we can't take the curse away.

 

We have eternal redemption right now as a present possession, yet we still "groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body". (Romans 8:23)

Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

 

I believe it, in its original context and meaning. Maybe you don't.

http://www.cbeinternational.org/?q=content/i-believe-male-headship

 

By their fruits......

 

Thread topic: Women pastors/deacons.

Another sign of summer...reruns.

 

Hey, even an episode of M*A*S*H is still good after seeing it a dozen times.:thumbs:

 

ONLY applies IF you hold to cultural mandated just for that time and setting!

Again, ONE verse supporting women can lead as pastor/elders in a church setting!

 

You are quite welcome!

It's funny, as I just said in another thread, how some won't accept the original and true meaning of something if it contradicts their biases and presuppositions.

 

It is people who oppose women in positions of leadership who are imposing their cultural, patriarchal mandates on women and against the true scriptural meaning of male headship.