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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by 37818, Jun 20, 2021.

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    MB Well-Known Member

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    Scripture does not say this at all, Calvinist just make things up out of the blue.HUH!
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    Impossible! things that are Spiritual are true and faith comes by hearing the word first. Calvinism makes no sense because it isn't of scripture.
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    No you are not because scripture does not say what you say it does..
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    Well Dave you can believe that stuff because you want to believe it. See there you too have freewill.
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    What truth of Scripture? There is not any Holy Scripture that teaches salvation prior to faith.
     
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    Nothing of man? Then why do people need to hear the gospel or God's truth?
     
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    Do you deny that one needs to first believe Jesus Christ paid for one's sins and rose bodily from the dead in order to be saved?
     
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    So in your theology people that "hate the true God" are saved? Would you mind explaining that one.
     
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    God saves people by grace. They have nothing to do with it. Many hate God when saved. Apostle Paul was out killing believes when God saved him. It was from that state of mind he learned about Christ. How many Muslims hate God when converted to Christ. And only accept him in love after learning of him? You seem to think people save themselves when they cannot discern the truth.
     
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    Free will does not enter into salvation. It prevents it if anything.
     
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    Because you need to hear it. Your question doesnt make sense !
     
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    One believes because of Grace, scripture does say that.
     
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    What you saying isnt making sense. No Grace, No Faith ! A person believes through grace.
     
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    Yes, Im telling the truth !
     
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    God gives the hearing ear friend. Men must be of God to hear His Words Jn 8:47

    47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

    According to Jesus who hears the word of God ?
     
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    Scripture please?
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    I hear just fine what I do not understand is what and why you make false claims about scripture that just aren't in scripture as you claim. My faith certainly is not in you.
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    This is not at issue. A person being of God to hear God's word involves man. So it is not nothing of man. You assume God knowing the end result of those whom God saves means God saves a person before they hear, Matthew 25:31-46. Which is not the case.
     
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    What in my question did not make sense?
     
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    Do you deny that one needs to first believe Jesus Christ paid for one's sins and rose bodily from the dead in order to be saved?
     
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