Favorite Preachers Who Are Women

I like to see Joyce Meyer on TV, but I don't know if anyone classifies her as a "preacher" or not.

I really don't know what the Bible says about women in a preaching role (but I guess I'll find out when the "read-the-Bible-in-a-year" plan starts up ), but my humble opinion is that I wouldn't stay in a church with a female pastor. I want to see men exclusively in that capacity. I would have trouble taking a female pastor seriously. I want that deep-voiced father figure at the front of the church, which, to me, just radiates authority better than a woman. Plus, as a woman myself, I don't think I could count on a woman pastor to maintain consistency.

Perhaps I'm the oddball, and old-fashioned in my ideas, but I think there are very few women who are reliable leaders of any kind.

Well, I guess I've said enough, huh?

 

Miss Bobbie,
I do hope you go to the Scriptures and let the Word dictate your beliefs on this issue. Just believing that women should not be pastors just because you want to see a "father figure" and "women aren't good leaders" in your opinion isn't enough and doesn't really hold much water. You do seem to indicate a willingness to learn from the Word; keep that willingness

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Miss Bobbie:
[QB]. . .But I think there are very few women who are reliable leaders of any kind.

QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would beg to differ. There are many reliable women leaders... Christian and non-Christian.

 

Women can be great leaders, and very reliable in rolls given them by God. It's just that preaching/pastoring isn't one of them.

 

Can women share what God has taught them? Can a woman stand on the platform in front of the congregation and share what God has done in her life?

Women comprise at least 50% of the Bride of Christ, and possibly much more. Jesus has much to say through his muzzled ladies. But most male leaders want to keep them silent. It's called bad interpretation of scripture.

God allows for women to speak, as He says in Joel:

JOEL 2:28 "And afterward,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams,
your young men will see visions.

Philip had four daughters.
Acts 21:[9] He had four unmarried daughters who prophesied.

These four daughters were known as those who could speak the word of God.

We have lost much of the voice of Jesus today in the church as we know it. Hopefully, we will see the full revelation of Jesus in the Body of Christ as Paul writes about in Ephesians 4. And this will include women being able to "share" about what God is teaching them, and what God doing in their lives in front of the congregation.

 

Standing in front of a congregation preaching the word is teaching doctrine to the congregation,including men. Women are prohibited from teaching men.

1 Tim. 2:11-14 (ESV)
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. [12] I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. [13] For Adam was formed first, then Eve; [14] and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

Case closed (for those who believe Paul's words are the Holy Spirit's as well).

[ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Chris Temple ]

 

The only woman preacher I've heard left a lot to be desired. She preached a very "works oriented salvation". She was not baptist and this service was at a Protestant Military Service (I was a guest singer). Someone told me that there were many rules that she had to follow.
As for women being preachers, well, I think that God is pretty clear on that. Older women are supposed to teach younger women (Titus 2), not men. This was hard for me at first, but God changed my heart and molded me to Him. I may not always understand why, but "God said it, I believe it, that settles it" (I heard that somewhere, I forget where)

 

As a point of information Dorisanne Cooper has been called as Pastor of Lakeshore Baptist Church in Waco Tx. This church also has a female Associate Pastor. THis is the second Baptist Church in Waco that has called a female as pastor in recent years.
Russell

 

Texas, our Texas

 

Well, it seems like there is hope for Texas after all. I was beginning to wonder after producing the likes of George W., whether Texans had any sense at all. My church visit there a couple of weeks ago wasn't all that great, either (I visited an IFB church for the first time).

I don't believe that Paul's instructions to Timothy were universal for all churches at all times. If that were the case, Paul would have stated the same in virtually every epistle he wrote and the language would include universal tenses. And at that, a woman who is a pastor wouldn't have authority over a man, since a pastor is not an authority in the church, but a servant who leads by example (see the words of Christ about servants, and also I Peter 5).

Rather than argue the point, because I will never be convinced that the Bible forbids women from preaching or pastoring, I would like to know if anyone has any insights as to why Waco, Texas, of all places, seems to be one of the most open minded places regarding the ministry of the church. Sounds like a great place to live and serve the Lord. What a tremendous sense of freedom and grace of Christ the members of those two churches must be feeling!

 

I'd love to interact with your post Ellis, but since you've already declared your mind being closed on the topic, I'll pass.

Incidentally, Waco was also home to David Koresh. Did Baylor help that cause along? Doubtful, but Texans are just a screwy bunch just the same. We Tennesseeans are still waiting for the thank-you from them for keeping them from becoming Mexican territory. Then again, maybe we should've just let them go

 

Gee Whiz Tom, We live in the UNITED States of America. If all you wanted was a thank you, here it is. Thank you from the heart of Texas

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>...I will never be convinced that the Bible forbids women from preaching or pastoring...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ellis, I am surprised that you, of all people, would make such a statement. Though I have no favorite women who are preachers because I do not believe the Bible authorizes such, I would like to at least imagine that, if I discovered the Bible taught that women could be preachers, I would change my beliefs to fit the Bible.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>...Texans are just a screwy bunch just the same.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tom, there is a reason that Texans are such a screwy bunch. Most of us came from Tennessee. What few ancestors I had that did not come here from Tennessee came from Georgia.

 

Actually, I did not mean for that particular post to sound the way it did. My apologies.
I do recall posting something regarding this subject on another thread and my intention was to avoid being redundant, not to give the impression that I believe the subject to be closed to dialogue. So let me offer this...

I believe the passage in Timothy, where Paul states that he does not allow a woman to have a position of authority over, or teach, a man in the church is one of clear cultural interpretation. Rather than saying that this is on the authority of the Lord, or even of Christ, he invokes only his apostolic authority when he says, "I do not permit..." I concur with a number of other theologians, including some Baptists, that this is a prohibition related only to the role of women in Paul's day, and that his instruction to Timothy, which was for a few churches to which Timothy ministered, was not universal for all Christians at all times. If it had been intended that way, I believe he would have invoked Christ's authority directly. Since Christ mentions nothing regarding the role of women in the church, Paul kept his instruction on the local, immediate level.

This is supported by a proper translation of 1 Timothy 3:11, in which the Greek noun "guniakas" is properly rendered "Deaconess" or "woman-servant", rather than the interpreted word "wife". This indicates that Paul did indeed allow some women to serve in church office and was stating that the requirements were the same. It is also supported by the use of the same Greek term, "guniakas", in reference to Phoebe, a female who held this position in the church at Cenchrea, near Corinth.

The passage I referred to in I Peter 5 is a set of instructions to elders not to exercise authority over the church as a "Lord" (as one having authority) but to set an example as a servant. Therefore, a woman serving as either a deacon or pastor would not be in authority over a man. Likewise, men serving as deacons and pastors derive their leadership from their example as well, and not because they are granted a worldly kind of authority.

I believe that the Bible's writers, especially Paul and Peter, were visionary enough to recognize the fact that the world would change and that things which might have been controversial in their day from a cultural and social perspective, might some day change. As Christians, we do not acknowledge that practicing slavery is right, even though there are specific instructions of this nature for slaves and masters in the scripture. Likewise, the cultural and social prohibitions against women that existed in Paul's day no longer exist, opening the door for women to experience a calling to service which is validated by God himself.

By the way, David Koresh was born in Tennessee, I believe.

 

I hope my fellow Texans are aware that I was being tongue-in-cheek. RLVAUGHN is probably right about the influence on Texas had by...Georgians

 

100% Southern Baptist Texan

Hallelujah and Amen!!


BTW .. I have to agree with what someone else said up there.
Women can be great spititual leaders, but when it comes to pastor/preacher I do not believe it is their call.

1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach

-Wilma

[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: wilshine ]