Feet Washing.

I do not say it. The bible says it.1jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. And the bible clearly tells you what you are if you commit these things.1jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. what sayeith the word of God about being drunk.Ga 5:21 Envyings, murders, DRUNKENness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which DO SUCH THINGS shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Do you do these things? And if you do where are you going to go when it clearly say you cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven. There is only two places you can go if you die.It also clearly states that this man that has commited this is not Born again. But that he is of the devil. So we shall be judged by the law weather it be good or bad and if Christ looks at a man after he has die being drunk. He shall be judge by the law and the laws says he will not inherit the kingdom of God. How can this man that done this say to Chrict that he was born again. when the law said that he was not. There will be alot in that day that will us this . But the law will judge them just and they will get the reward that is just. To all them that do commit these deeds I pray that you repent and be born again. But not just me that ask but God.Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be BORN again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 1pe 1:23 Being BORN again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

 

I was born again in 1978...

I got drunk in 1992...

I was saved even though I was drunk...

This is what I feared about the doctrine of footwashing.

It symbolizes the need for us to keep ourselves clean.
That is why the freewill Baptists do it.

IF a person doesn't believe that Christ saves them, and Christ alone... no matter what they do, they don't have saving faith in Christ.

And are not saved...

And if a person believes that, they need their whole soul cleansed with the blood of Jesus.. not their feet washed.

If you have to keep yourself saved, you are not saved to begin with.

Either Christ saves you, or you are not saved. period.

Eph 2:8-9

This is another reason I would not tack foot washing on to communion...

Communion (the bread and wine) symbolizes Christ's once and for all sacrifice for my sins...
Footwashing as charles is proposing symbolizes our need to be washed over and over for our sins....

Christ washed me once in His blood, in 1978... and that was good enough for the rest of my life.. He forgave me from my sins... past, present, and yes the future.

I am sorry you have to add water to Christ's blood to keep you clean...

Works and grace does not mix...

Either you are saved by Christ, or you are not saved.

 

Charles, I didn't know you were Catholic.

We've gone back into "mortal sins" and "veinal sins."

SO charles...how 'bout giving us a list of sins that "it is impossible for Christians to commit."

BTW...your misunderstanding of several Scriptures is going to make for an extremely long list.

And you'll probably find sins on there you've comitted (gasp) since you've been saved.

Your view won't hold up.

 

May God bless all of you. I hope to see you in heaven some day. We wash feet because we are showing our king we love him. I will tell you if you commit theses things you will be cast in the lake of fire with the devil and his holy angels. I have done gave you bible verse on where them that go who do such things.

 

Tinytim, with all due respect, you're are off by a long shot. Feetwashing has nothing to do with keeping clean of sins. Regardless of what an individual believes, that has no bearing on what others that practice feetwashing believe... I practice feetwashing but I in no way believe it has anything to do with keeping clean of sins.

To use an old, worn out baptistboard cliche: "You're painting with a broadbrush."

 

So by your logic...you cannot be a Christian and have commit of the following sins...

unrighteousness
fornication,
idolatry
adultery
effeminacy
theft,
coveting,
drunkenness
revelry...

the fearful,
unbelieving,
the abominable,
murderers,
whoremongers,
sorcerers,
idolaters,
liars

That knocks most of us out at some point...

 

That is good...

But it is apparent that some beleive this.

I hope I am painting with too wide a brush.
I hope others are not believing that it symbolizes the continual washing away of sins.

 

I do not believe a Christian commits those acts to start with. My bible tells me they are not going to Heaven. I believe in a God that is much stronger than that. My God, won't let you do those things, or you would be wasteing the blood of Jesus and putting God to an open shame.

BBob,

 

Paul killed and persecuted Christians. Is he in heaven?

 

Not unless you have been forgiven and had the blood of Jesus applied to your soul, then you have the Grace of God with you, and by the Grace of God you are what you are, and I do not believe that by the Grace of God you are those things.

Satan tried to get the Lord to do such things, but He told Satan to get behind Him.

BBob,

 

Sure, he was forgiven and a chosen vessel for the Gentile nation.

Do you believe the blood of Jesus applied to your soul is a license to sin????

BBob,

 

So if you are ever fearful...

...if you ever covet...

that means you're not saved, right?



(I don't agree with the above; just showing how when you start picking and choosing sins to say "a Christian could never commit..." that you're going to get trapped by the very Scriptures you use to justify your point.)

 

This is where you are wrong... I was Saved, born-again, justified, what ever you want to call it in 78... and I GOT DRUNK .. back in 92.

So are you telling me that I wasn't saved until after I got drunk?
What about now?

If I go out, and buy something to drink, drink it, am I saved now?

This is the goofiest theology I have ever seen...

I have seen the ones that said if I would get drunk, I wouldn't be saved AFTER I got drunk...

But you are saying if I get drunk tomorrow, I am not saved TODAY....

I am thankful you are sinless... just let me know how you do it.. I would really like to know....

 

So if you want to live a life of sin, adultery, drunkness, lying, stealing, pedophiler, molesting little girs and boys, then all you have to do is be saved, then you are free to do all those things and they won't be held against you. Too weak for me. My God is much stronger than that.

When John the Baptist told the King, it was not lawful to have his brother Phillip's wife, then if John would of only known to tell the King to be saved, then it would be ok to take everybody's wife, live it up Oh King and go to Heaven also.

BBob,

 

Brother:

Everyone of those sins can possibly be committed by any Christian, and I don't care how "deep in the Word" you may say you are. Committing these sins do not necessarily have to be physical.

The mere entertaining of these sins in your mind taints you with them, and that is why without Christ none will ever stand the stare of God. That is why He is the cleft of the Rock from which we are hid from the lightning bolts of God's wrath upon sin.

However, I believe that Paul is in complete agreement once more with James here, or was it John, who said that the Christian does not sin, which basically means he does not stay in any sin.

He hates sin. He hates the smell of it, the sight of it, the pleasure of it, and though it snares him from time to time, he wants out of it, and cries out to his eternal savior for his timely salvation.

I challenge anyone to say that he loves Christ, that he is a redeemed person, and yet lives with one who is not his lawful wedded wife, enjoys it, and is not bothered by it.

Notice I do not say it is impossible for a professing Christian to be living in adultery.

I can recall off the top of my head some I have met who profess to be God's child, indeed, even holds to the doctrine of grace, and yet...... truly sad, but the heart of man is deceitful above all things, who can know it ?

 

No, we don't have a license to sin.. .but we do sin.

And God has already justified us.

that was done at Calvary, and became effective when I believed

I stand before God sinless because of what Christ did... not because of what I avoid.

 

How did you turn Tinytim's testimony into that diatribe?

He didn't say that, and you know it.

 

He didn't say anything about not being sinless, but he did say, you don't commit the sins that send you to hell. You can live as wreckless as you want, that is between you and your God, as for us, we will serve the Lord.

BBob,

 

bumped for Bob

1 Corinthians 6:9-10--Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Revelation 21:8--
8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

So by your logic...you cannot be a Christian and have commit of the following sins...

unrighteousness
fornication,
idolatry
adultery
effeminacy
theft,
coveting,
drunkenness
revelry...

the fearful,
unbelieving,
the abominable,
murderers,
whoremongers,
sorcerers,
idolaters,
liars

That knocks most of us out at some point...

So Bob...


So if you are ever fearful......if you ever covet...

that means you're not saved, right?

 

Yes, he did sat that too.