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Female pastor - (a serious discussion)

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Jul 5, 2019.

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  1. Salty

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    From another thread
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    When we say pastor - we normally think of the senior pastor, or assistant.pastor

    But is the senior pastor the only one position that may be held by a male?
    and the vast majority of us believe that position does needs to be a male.

    How about a Youth Pastor - could that be a female

    How about Children Pastor - could/should that position be a female?

    Pastor of Discipleship.....

    Pastor of ____________ (fill in the blank)
     
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    No to all. No women pastors.
     
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    I don't believe attaching the term woman and pastor should ever happen. Having said that, I am for licensing and ordaining women when it has to be done for specific purposes. We ordained women a couple times because the county jails around here will not let ministers in unless they are ordained. To have a women's jail ministry, we had to ordain women. As far as the church goes, they have no role. It was done outside the SBC.
     
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    No. They have the potential and likelihood over being over young men.

    Shouldn't be called a pastor. I honestly don't believe in all of these other "pastor" positions anyway.

    Nope for reasons already given.
     
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    what age would you say should be the cutoff? 10, 12,14 ,18???
    I was familiar with an England speaking church in Germany - and from
    my understanding - their cutoff age for children under a female was about 4 years old - (yes, I am serious)
    From what I understand, they only had 2 Sunday School classes - one for children age 4 and below and everyone else was in the adult class.
     
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    I would say elementary school age is the cutoff. Preferably though, I don't think women should ever be instructing boys. The men need to step up.
     
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    Sounds like you think this is unusual? In your own state here's a church (nondenominational but pretty conservative) with the same sort of policy, banning women from teaching mixed Sunday School classes past pre-elementary:
     
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    Pastor - no.

    Deaconess - depends on the local church.

    Also in Paul's day the attitude was the same as strict muslin societies today when it came to women.
    A woman cannot even talk to a man that is not family.

    Although today a woman with a badge has full authority over men and can arrest men (ever watch COPS) taze them, shoot them etc...

    Times have definitely changed and those who allow women in the ministry use that reason.
     
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    I was amused by two sentences in this story.
    Salty, what do you think of the bolded parts (Pastor Tim making his wife sign the letter dismissing the elderly Sunday School teacher & how he explains that these opinions of his on gender are just an 'at church' thing)?:

    UPI August 21, 2006 • Pastor Fires Woman Sunday School Teacher

    "Baptist minister in New York State...fired a Sunday school teacher because of her gender"

    "Mary Lambert, who has been a member of the First Baptist Church in Watertown for 60 years, was notified last week she could no longer teach in the church school because the Rev. Tim LaBouf had decided the Bible says women should not teach men. The letter was signed by LaBouf's wife, Kendra."

    "LaBouf, a member of the Watertown City Council, said his beliefs on the roles of men and women...'stop at the church door'."
     
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    As to the OP: Any and all.
     
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    Women Pastors, Bishops, Elders , etc... is non Biblical period.
     
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    exchange touching on that from another thread:
     
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    I think Jesus pretty much debunked that myth at the well, don't you?
     
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    No He was "breaking the rule" when He talked to her.

    John 4:27 And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?
     
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    Oh, well I think His disciples suddenly realized that “rule” was invented by the Jewish rabbis and wasn’t worth the papyrus rolls it was written on, that’s why they didn’t say anything.
     
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    Yes it was a Semitic social moray and Jesus ignored it in this case.

    My point was to contrast the social morays of then with those of now for the sake of the discussion.
     
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    When I take that point, make that comparison, I ends up observing the errors of Jewish Rabbis making religious rules about women in those days that were over the top and even in disagreement with God which was seen at the Biblical account at the well - looking pretty similar to some of the “rules” being laid down in this thread to form social moray in these days concerning women in the church. Just sayin…
     
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