Firestarter

I thought God chose our leaders. Why are you questioning Him?

 

I'm not sure what the big deal is. Everything you say that he said sounds perfectly reasonable to me. It's basically what Ronald Reagan did and the economy skyrocketed.

 

Oh no, taxes to pay for government services? I think even King David taxed the people.

 

1)Isn't Arnold's position that he supports civil contracts, not marriage?

2)Accepting your anti-Arnold smack talk for the moment, actually they couldn't. As evidenced by the vote count, McClintock would not have won.

3)I know this is much to the chagrin of your right-wing theocratic political beliefs, but neither the federal government nor the government of any of the fifty states or the District of Columbia are, nor were they intended to be, a theocracy run by Christian clerics.

 

Youre right. Arnold is FLATLY AGAINST same sex marriage. Those who say atherwise are outright liars and spreaders of gossip and rumor, which is a clear sin in the Bible.

The abortion issue is a complete nonissue, since it's a federal issue, not a state issue. Arnold was, however, flatly against bartial birth abortion, and favored passage of the recent federal bill. Still, however, his opinion on that was a non-issue, since that, too, was a federall, not a state, issue.

As for revenue to fight the fires, Arnold said VERY CLEARLY during his campaign that he would work to not raise taxes, but recognized that, if there were a disaster/emergency, raising taxes might be necessary. The cost of the fires is 9 million per day. I understood then, and I understand now, that this is a disaster that may necessetate a chunk of tax money. In other words, I wanted a governor who would be honest, and I got one. What's there to be disappointed about?

As for rebellion against God, I fail to see how securing tax money to fight a fire is a rebellion against God.

It's increasingly clear to me that, if you're a, ultra right wing conservative, you'll be allowed to post your viewpoint freely, but if you're a left wing liberal, you'll be banned from the board. Thankfully, I'm a moderately conservative centrist, and not one to give in to the extremeness of political parties.

 

Then take it up with God if you have a problem with it.

 

Ya know Jailminister, I have seen many posts from you having to do with CA, and I just gotta ask:

WHAT'S IT TO YA?!

Were you involved in the recent recall? Did you vote here? Are you looking at paying $1,500 bucks to register your car for a year?

If the answer is no, then that means you DON'T LIVE HERE, right?

We residents of CA appreciate your concern, but all this worry isn't good for you. Let go and let God.

 

1)The difference is in semantics. I prefer that the word "marriage" retain its meaning of a husband and a wife. It has symbolic significance. I know that is not sufficient for you, but that is the way society is headed to deal with this issue. You can try to stop it but I don't think you will succeed.

2)I don't know about California but I think in most states proposed amendments to the U.S. Constitution are voted on by the legislature, the governor doesn't have a vote on it. Also, I doubt the U.S. Congress will ever pass such an amendment, especially not during the next three years that Arnold is governor of California.

Hey, Jailminister, just to be fair I think you should give your critique of the governors of the other 49 states.

 

1)Whether he signs it or not is totally irrelevant. You really need to research such statements before you make them.

From the U.S. Constitution:

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

2)Can you name a country that is not in rebellion against God and whom God's judgment is not upon?

 

And just how do you know that? When something bad happens to you, does that mean God is striking you for some rebellion on your part. You presume an awful lot.

I think you need to read the book of Job in the Old Testament.

 

Actually you are wrong. Period.

 

Then answer my question: When something bad happens to you personally, does that mean God is striking you for some rebellion on your part? And if you say yes, then how do you figure out what your rebellion is that you are being struck for?

 

So if California had elected Mr. McClintock the fires would not have happened - is that what you are saying?

That is absurd as the Bible teaches it is God Who puts leaders in place and it is God Who removes leaders.