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First Muslim in Congress to use Thomas Jefferson's quran

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    First muslim in Congress to use historic quran
    Thomas Jefferson's book to be used in unofficial swearing-in

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16455298/

    Of course, he had a quran in his collection of many books, he was fighting the Barbary Pirates (arabs/muslims) way back then - they have always been out to kill, plunder, rape, and destroy. Jefferson and the other founding fathers would probably turn over in their graves if they knew one was actually elected to Congress and is taking the Congressional Oath on the quran. It is such an affront to the FF and to Almighty God upon whose principles and laws this great nation was founded, starting with the Mayflower Compact. Now allegiance is being paid to the moon god of satan at our nation's capitol.

    http://www.crf-usa.org/bria/bria18_1.htm#pirates
     
  2. KenH

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    I think that the Founding Fathers would be proud that freedom of religion still exists over 200 years later in the United States.

    The Congressman will not be sworn in on a Koran and no other Congressman/woman will be sworn in on a Bible. There is no book used in the official swearing in ceremony.

    The Koran and Bible will be used by the representatives in the photo ops that mean absolutely nothing.

    This whole issue is much ado about nothing.
     
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  3. LadyEagle

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    So if someone wanted to be unofficially sworn in using Mein Kampf, that would be much ado about nothing as well?
     
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    Yep.

    I agree with what George Will said recently - I would want to be sworn in on the Federalist Papers. :)
     
  5. LadyEagle

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    Well, let's just follow this story and see how the jihadists use it as propaganda for their cause to have a muslim flag flying over the US Capitol, shall we? I bet the photo will make all the arab media.
     
  6. KenH

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    I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, LE. There are lot bigger, more important issues to be concerned about.
     
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    Well, back in the 1920s, there were Congressmen who were Ku Klux Klan members. The Klan was friendly towards the Nazis.
     
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    And if I understand it correctly, a great many of them were Republicans, too.
     
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    Personally, I couldn't care less, but I think he wants this specific copy as a direct result of the comments from Virginia Congressman Virgil Goode.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
  10. Magnetic Poles

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    I think they'd be proud. From Article VI, The Constitution of the United States of America . . .
    ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

    Moon god of Satan? Quite a flair for the melodramatic, eh LE?

    From the Treaty of Tripoli, unanimously passed by the United States Congress:

    Article 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.​
     
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    Well, the only former Klansman still in the Congress is a Democrat - Senator Byrd.
     
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    Now, MP, you're gonna bust LE's bubble if you keep quoting stuff like that.​


     
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    I have some mixed feelings about Senator Byrd. He has indeed apologized for his youthful involvement in the KKK. He also carries, and refers to, a copy of the Constitution. He has also been a king of pork, but has also done good things for the people of his very poor state of West Virginia.
     
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    I don't know, Ken. That bubble seems to have a thick shell! :laugh:
     
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    Heh, Tripoli and Thomas Jefferson:

    More of "neo-con" vibe to me: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,994562,00.html

    So, no, the Founders Fathers wouldn't have been "proud". As for the Treaty of Tripoli, which was just a pact to stop the Muslim v. Christian wars, it was broken within a few years.
     
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    Indeed the founders specifically stated that the United States was not founded on the Christian faith.
     
  17. KenH

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    So do you folks that think this is a big issue - do you want to ban any non-Christian or any Christian that doesn't meet your standards for being a Christian from public office? Or is it just Muslims that you want to ban from public office? Are atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, et al, okay for public office in your view?
     
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    What founders? Sorry to be beating a dead horse, but you know there's no such clause in the second Treaty of Tripoli. Nor is it in the Muslim version of this:

    http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/tripoli.htm

    Whatever. But my point was Jefferson did read the Koran to help with his war on terror. A neo-con.

    Heh, no. It just isn't so reassuring to have a Congressman swear into office using the Koran, especially Jefferson's...
     
  19. LadyEagle

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    Heh, thanks for the link and from that link:

    Heh, yep, MP, my bubble does have a thick shell, because it is based on truth, not political correctness. And history does repeat itself.

    Moon god of satan is not melodramatic - it is the truth. Once satan gets a foot hold, it soon becomes a strong hold. But who cares, it's only the futures of our children and grandchildren at stake. We'll be dead. Let them live and die under sharia law.:tear:

    Then again, maybe we will be raptured and won't care if the flag of allah is flying over the WH.
     
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    No Congressman will be sworn into office tomorrow on the Koran - or the Bible for that matter.
     
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