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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by freeatlast, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. Yeshua1

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    repentance is what is done before salvation, as one agrees with God unable to save ourselves, repent of doing it by my works, and trust in christ!

    Once saved, we confess and forsake sinning, but still do sin at times, has no sinless perfection state able to get to in this life!

    And christians will and are saved SOLELY by grace of god, so our behaviour after getting saved can vary depending upon IF we agree to follow theWill of God or not!
     
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    his mantra is must obey and keep the commandments, so really not sure if we are saved under grace , or by the law!
     
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    Think just following the biblical mandate, in that sinners are saved by grace alone, faith alone by God, and that His will is that we grow in maturity, into image of christ!

    its just that we ALL have different growth curves, and some stay babes in jesuslonger than others, and though we strive to stay from sinning, still can and will sin!
     
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    You are correct about two things. It is totally by grace and repentance has to happen to be saved. However you are incorrect about what repentance is. Repentance is a change of mind towards God Acts 20:21. Also we are able to not sin after being saved, but most choose not to live that way. There is no such thing as almost turning to God and repentance requires turning to God.
     
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    Again that is wrong. It is not faith alone. It is repentance toward God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. No repentance, no salvation, no matter how much or what the person believes.
     
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    NONE but jesus will ever live sinless lives while in this flesh!

    Do you deny that we still have sin natures/primciples dwelling within us then?
     
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    repentance means to forsake self salvation, and instead trust in person of jesus!

    faith alone /grace alone is the biblical Gospel!
     
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    You already know the answer to that as you have asked it many times. Yes I deny that as does the bible. We are new creations, not old ones. 2Cor 5:17
    Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
     
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    No not according to the bible. Acts 20:21 makes it clear.
     
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