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For all the "Dubya" fans . . .

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Magnetic Poles, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles New Member

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    I miss Dubya, despite his weaknesses. I think many Obama voters are missing him too. "What in the world did we get ourselves into this time?!"
     
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    Yeah, George W. Bush made LBJ look like a small government type when it came to increasing government spending and increasing the national debt.
     
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    LOL... that was funny!
     
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    I am not particularly missing him, because you do get tired of a president after 8 years (if not 4 or less). I did drive by his new house one day, but it was before he moved in.
     
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    I hardly notice any difference myself. Still got two or three costly nation building follies going on. Still beating the war drums over Iran, still spending money we ain't got to do it all. Still spying on Americans, still beefing up the militarized police state, still using the military to police civilans, even though it's still illegal to do it.

    The borders are still unsecure.

    The faces have changed but it's the same ole same ole. Except now the democrats and liberals have lost their backbone when it comes to being against these so called "wars".

    So, whose policies are these if the change in faces and parties makes no difference at all?
     
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    Right you are poncho. However I like Glenn Beck's analogy - at least the frog knows he's in hot water now.

    HankD
     
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    I have to agree most of that. :thumbs: The only difference between Bush & Obama is you have a moderate who leans to the right sometimes & you have a left leaning liberal who leans in my book almost off the political spectrum.

    The truth is Republicans can only blame themselves. If the party hadn't grown complacent & tried putting conservative candidates as their front runner instead of ignoring & snubbing them, then we wouldn't be where we are today. I believe that conservatism always wins over liberalism. The reason Obama won was because McCain wasn't conservative enough. If it had been Alan Keyes, Tom Tancredo, or Pat Buchanan, then one of them would have been president. While I also liked Mike Huckabee, I think he would have been too soft on Obama.
     
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    The reason Obama won was because the global elite saw an opportunity to co-opt the anti war movement. The core policies that we see being continued from one administration to another to another are in fact globalist policies. They (global elite) don't care if a liberal or conservative is in office just so long as he/she will continue their policies.

    And if he/she is able to fool the American people into thinking he/she is on their side, well so much the better. Their goal is to keep us divided and arguing over wedge issuses amongst ourselves and relatively calm until their police state control grid is place. Fact is there is only one party in the USA. The globalist party. It has two factions, those who lean left and those who lean right but they are all internationalists. Listen to em, they admit as much everytime they open their mouths. None of them on "on our side". Save for maybe Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin.

    If they were democrat or republican policies they would change when the party in power changed. The United States and it's civil constitution are the last obstacles that stand in the way of global government.

    They both have to go bye bye to make way for the "new international order".
     
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    I wasn't happy with a lot of Bush's decisions in his last few years. After the election, a friend asked me if I was going to miss him when he was out of office. I said "Probably, but if I miss him, l'll just pick up my other shoe and try again".

    It was all in jest, though. I'm generally a sticklet for respecting the POTUS, even if I don't like the person in the office at the time. The office itself is worthy of nominal respect.
     
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    Georack Bushama are doing well at this, aren't they?
     
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    To often the people who get to sit in that office fail to respect it. Is it disrepectful to disrespect the disrespectful? I mean that office represents us all and when those sitting in it disrepect it they are being disrepectful of us.

    Seems to me like they owe some respect too Johnv. And besides, respect is something that is earned not something that is just handed out because one occupies a certain space.
     
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    I agree that respect is earned, but most often, a person occupies a certain space because they earned that space. By the time anyone gets into the POTUS office, it's most definitely earned, and not simply handed to that person.

    We tell our kids they should respect our teachers because they're teachers, or police officers because they're police officers. Likewise, we should respect the POTUS because he is POTUS. One can disagree or rightly criticise ruch persons all one wants to (and we frequently do). But we should still respect the office.
     
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    Really? What did Obama do to earn that office?

    When the potus stands for the intentional and unlimited slaughter of unborn children he gets no respect. period.
     
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    He earned the office of POTUS by being the smoothest talking internationalist in the line up. In other words he proved his worth to the global elite that he represents. He earned their respect (and therefore the office of POTUS) by proving his contempt for the U.S. constitution and we the people. And for that I should respect him? I don't think so Johnv.
     
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    Is it a full moon again? I see the idiots are out of their cages debating the differences between Democrats and Republicans.
     
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    He was elected into it.
    His position on abortion merits appropriate criticism from those opposed to elective abortion. It does not warrant disrespect.
     
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    Not enough

    He warrants no repsect.Period
     
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